Feinstein Sets Sights on Hi Point Carbines

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For years Beemiller, the company who owns and distributes Hi Point has counted their series of pistol caliber carbines as one of their best selling products. Made in 9mm, 40S&W, and 45ACP, these reliable and affordable little guns have found a legion of followers.

California Senator Dianne Feinstein is now going after the humble Hi-Point for reasons unknown, labeling it a dangerous and evil assault weapon (itself a class of arms that doesn't exist). Of the more than 35,000 modern firearm models in circulation, only 157 were deemed dangerous enough for the good Senator to ban them by name.

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And the Hi-Point carbines are so scary to the good Senator that they are number 12 on the list, right between the 11th ranked Israeli Galil Model AR/Model ARM and 13th ranked German Heckler and Koch HK91, HK93, HK94, HK22 PSG1, and HK USC.

What are the Hi Point Carbines?

For those of you unaware, the Tom Deeb inspired semi-auto carbines made by Hi-Point have
been around since 1995. Inexpensive and made from zymak (zinc alloy) slides coupled to
polymer frames with steel inserts for support, these little blowback action guns were a hit from the moment they were introduced. They have proved themselves to thousands of buyers. In 2011, more than 30,000 of the carbines were sold to the public, outstripping the rifle sales of many very well known gun makers in the country. Today they are sold in three variants, the Models 995TS, 4095TS, and 4595TS, with the primary difference between the three beings in caliber chambering.

Why are they picking on the Hi Points?

Born during Senator Feinstein's first short-lived Assault Weapon's Ban, they fully met the
restrictions of the country when they were designed. They do not have a collapsible stock, a bayonet lug, were not designed for military service, and only accept a 10-round single stack magazine as standard. Hi-Point has never marketed a larger so-called high capacity mag for its firearms.

Other than being one of the several illegally obtained weapons used in the 1999 Columbine School Shooting, the Hi-Point carbines rarely show up in crimes. So what sets it apart?

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The Feather Ind AT-9 carbine, like the Hi-Point carbines it has a pistol grip, so like the Hi-Point, it is listed on Fienstien's ban wish list.


Signs point to this new attention being focued because of the pistol grip. Several other pistol caliber carbines are also sharing space the Hi-Points in the ban list including the Keltec Sub2000, Beretta CX4, and Feather Industries AT-9. The only similarity with these designs is in the simple grip that is provided in the magazine well. Other popular pistol caliber carbines that do not have a pistol grip, such as the Marlin Camp Carbine and the Ruger PC40/PC9, are specifically listed on a much longer list of guns not subject to ban in the same bill.

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The Marlin Camp Carbine. Made in 9mm and 45ACP it is a pistol caliber carbine. It doesn't have a pistol grip so unlike the Hi-Point 995/4095/4595, its on the proposed list of firearms that is allowed to remain in circulation...for now.

An unexpected result of this is that current owners of these budget rifles, have seen the value of their guns double or even triple on the open market. Guns that before could be acquired for as little as $150 gently used at your local pawn broker now go for nearly $500-- when you can even get them.

Possible Outcomes

The Assault Weapon Ban of 2013 may very well not pass. The original 1994 bill only just slid through on the narrowest of margins (216-214 in the House, 51-49 in the Senate) and was much less strict. If it does in its current form, you will see the Hi-Point Carbines of all types banned from sale. Those nearly 250,000+ carbines in current circulation could be grandfathered to the current owners after paying a $200 tax stamp to the ATF and going through the invasive NFA registration process. If you don't properly register it, you can be looking at a large chunk of your life spent in a federal facility if caught with one along with extensive fines.

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The quiet and unassuming Hi-Point carbine in its most frequently seen role: weekend plinker that stands ready for medium weight hunting and home defense if needed. Is this really an assault weapon? Some in Congress think so.

Presumably, the company could rename the rifle something completely different, such as the "Hi-Point Camp Companion" and redesign it to have a plain stock without a pistol grip to comply with the law. On the other hand, it could just stick to making pistols if it's not economically viable to undertake a redesign and rebranding campaign. The company itself, faced with having issued lifetime warranties on a quarter million now-Class III firearms, may be in for millions in regulatory issues in having to ship this now highly regulated guns across state lines for repair.

If you have thoughts on this matter, the best thing to do is share them with your local congressional representative.

Repeatedly.

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Posted: 
February 2, 2013  •  06:39 AM
It's because it's actually affordable to the filthy peasants she deems unworthy of being able to own firearms. Like me
 
Posted: 
February 12, 2013  •  10:41 PM
Get em while they are hot fellers. And don't ever let them go. You'll have to kill me to get mine back.
 
Posted: 
February 13, 2013  •  11:49 AM
Hi point is a small popular company and doesn't look to offer much of a fight, leftys always like an easy target to stand over and threaten other with!
If need be I'll donate money to defend Hi Point and keep them in business, whats say you????
 
Posted: 
February 16, 2013  •  04:21 AM
I am looking to get one,but money is kind of tight right now.
 
Posted: 
February 16, 2013  •  08:24 AM
The thing that Hi-Point doesn't understand is Fienstein just doesn't like guns...quit trying to appease the libs. Start making a 30 round mag for these guns as long as they are legal. Don't worry...the Zombies will be coming after the Hi-Point pistols shortly.
 
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February 16, 2013  •  10:41 AM
I knew I should have got a 4595 sooner cuz now I can't find one anywhere!
If you have to get a tax stamp for these, well I just don't see many people doing it at almost the same cost as the rifle. That would be ridiculous!
 
Posted: 
February 16, 2013  •  10:50 AM
Come after mine, hee-hee. I'll be waiting.
 
Posted: 
February 16, 2013  •  11:25 AM
Well i already have one i had better grab another one as soon as possible..I don't believe this ban will pass..
 
Posted: 
February 16, 2013  •  11:39 AM
SO say WE ALL!!!!!!
 
Posted: 
February 16, 2013  •  11:47 AM
In Texas we are not going to honor Feinstein. She was never an issue. Obamanation wanted her to throw hers out so he could come in from behind and offer a less restrictive deal making his look sweeter. She gets applause for throwing out the diversion and it doesn't cost her anything she wasn't already doing. Now, Obamanation wants universal background checks. That is the first step in confiscation. Wake UP and sound off. Do not let your senators or congressmen go for ANY bills, period. These are Rights protected by the constitution. Give an inch and they will never stop until the Constitution is eroded to nothing and thrown away in their utopia.
 
Posted: 
February 16, 2013  •  03:12 PM
Hi-Point needs to wake up. It doesn't matter what you do, they are coming after you and every other firearm manufacturer. Mabe not today, maybe not next week or next month but sooner than you might think.
 
Posted: 
February 17, 2013  •  01:08 AM
Gun Makers Boycott Governments Hostile To Second Amendment. Hi-Point should take a similar stand whether or not they supply arms to government agencies. http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/gun-makers-boycott-governments-hostile-to-second-amendment/
 
Posted: 
February 18, 2013  •  04:36 PM
This whole ordeal in disposing of our rights sickens me. They have been trying to eliminate our rights curtailing of privacy, doing illegal searches and seizures, and the right to keep and bear arms against foreign and domestic enemies. Their purposeful misunderstanding of those rights and the morons who violate need to be stopped thus the whole reason the way they were written!

It is good to see that the gun companies are doing something, all should!
 
Posted: 
March 21, 2013  •  07:51 AM
Looks like Feinstein's AWB bill wont' be brought up on the floor of the Senate....for now. I do agree that it was probably a diversionary tactic and now the "background" check will be easier to get through.
All that being said, my HP 995TS is one great gun and I love it. So much so, I bought a second one. Mom knows what they are doing and I hope they are around for a very long time.
 
Posted: 
April 1, 2013  •  07:06 AM
@Rough2000

+1 Brother!!!

I'm loadin up on standard capacity guns and mags (anything over 10 is standard IMO)
and my Marine Corps veteran son thinks I'm obsessed with capacity LOL
He would crap a ton if he knew how many PMags I have hidden in storage ;)

These freaks like Un-Einstein will not be happy until they get ALL the viable
Tyrant-Eliminating weapons out of circulation. The UN can kiss it too, we need
to ship that mess over to Africa or somewhere else that needs the attention!

Don't get me started LOL
 
Posted: 
April 26, 2013  •  10:02 PM
Any weapon used to assault a person not commiting a crime, by definition IS an "assault weapon", because it is being used to assault. So I guess paintball guns/airsoft guns when used irresponsibly against someone could also be an "assault weapon", or maybe even a stone.
 
Posted: 
May 12, 2013  •  12:21 PM
My High Point Carbine is very scary looking. Feinstein would need to change her undies if she saw it.
 
Posted: 
June 3, 2013  •  07:37 PM
wonder on any given day how many evil weapons are protecting those that would strip us of the second amendment,any gun is an inanimate object,they can never legislate idiots out of existance 99 and 9/10s of leagle gun owners are not the problem,more people are killed by golf clubs and baseball bats than sporting rifles,FACT,sporting rifles are used in less than 3 percent of gun crimes,FACT,out of aroune 11000 felons that applied for weapons last year 44 were prosicuted,if a person looses it they will do what ever when ever,its impossible to stop someone bent on destruction period,we are much better off armed than not,GOD BLESS AMERICA,THE CONSTITUION,BILL OF RIGHTS,no international treaty or agreement trumps the constition.
 
Posted: 
June 22, 2013  •  08:38 AM
@TheWall Do not tell them that! By that logic because I *could* poke someone in the eye with a crayon they could justify confiscating them from my children's art supplies!

You see, technically assault is most simply doing something that causes a fear response from another person. There does not need to be any overt or even implied threat if the other person *feels* threatened by you. Because I am a physically large man I have had this used against me before. A judge upheld the fact I merely needed to exist to give another man reason to have a restraining order issued against me.

Even though I had a great number of character references and a complete lack of any kind of violent record.

He used this ploy to force me out of my place of employment where we were in competition for the same promotion. This was a guy with a "friends don't let friends eat meat" bumper sticker and sierra club membership. They will pervert any and all means to achieve their agendas.
 
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