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« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2009, 07:03:58 PM » |
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Sadly no, that isn't a prop. It is however an $18,000 gun. It's a .600 Nitro Express Magnum Handgun. They have 2, although the other one is only a "target" gun with a single round chamber.
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« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2009, 11:39:11 PM » |
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Concealed in public, open is like waving your wallet around, besides you lose the advantage of knowing something the criminal doesn't. At the range or hunting always open with a tactical holster for comfort.
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« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2009, 05:27:08 PM » |
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Iam taking my ccw next month but Ill probably open carry for right now but later I may conceal it.
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« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2009, 06:12:36 PM » |
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The problem with open carry is the BG will blast you first when he sees your weapon exposed to get you out of the way, even if you don't know something is going down yet. Just a thought.
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« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2009, 01:09:38 AM » |
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The problem with open carry is the BG will blast you first when he sees your weapon exposed to get you out of the way, even if you don't know something is going down yet. Just a thought.
Or kill you for the gun. It does happen...CC all the way.
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« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2009, 09:09:47 AM » |
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The problem with open carry is the BG will blast you first when he sees your weapon exposed to get you out of the way, even if you don't know something is going down yet. Just a thought.
Or kill you for the gun. It does happen...CC all the way. Augh..  Give me one verifiable account of this happening, to a NON LEO. You won't find it. This is a common myth pushed to tell people to not OC, and it just doesn't happen. On the flip side, on many occassions, and even I have experienced this, where an individual, or even a group of people, that you know are up to no good, decide to turn and walk away after seeing that you have a gun on your hip. OC deters crime, not the other way around. And it doesn't cause you to become a target. Until someone posts verifiable facts to the contrary, it's just hearsay and no proof.
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« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2009, 01:35:41 PM » |
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I voted CC due to not wanting the drama and headaches of OC. That and when I'm out, I usually ave my kids with me, and would feel weird with an OC around them (2 & 7)
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« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2009, 02:22:52 PM » |
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If you are going to be carrying a Hi-point you better keep it concealed. Otherwise the criminal armed with a Jennings or a Raven will think you are a joke.
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« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2009, 04:26:46 PM » |
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The problem with open carry is the BG will blast you first when he sees your weapon exposed to get you out of the way, even if you don't know something is going down yet. Just a thought.
Or kill you for the gun. It does happen...CC all the way. Augh..  Give me one verifiable account of this happening, to a NON LEO. You won't find it. This is a common myth pushed to tell people to not OC, and it just doesn't happen. On the flip side, on many occassions, and even I have experienced this, where an individual, or even a group of people, that you know are up to no good, decide to turn and walk away after seeing that you have a gun on your hip. OC deters crime, not the other way around. And it doesn't cause you to become a target. Until someone posts verifiable facts to the contrary, it's just hearsay and no proof. What you want verification of someone getting robbed for their gun/guns? Im am not saying OC does not deter crime I am saying its too much information to give these scumbags in my own very aged opinion. Knowledge is power and the knowledge that Im packing an $800 pistol I will keep to myself until/if the time comes to introduce some punk to the infernal regions. I respect your position I just don't agree its best for my defense.
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« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2009, 12:51:15 AM » |
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There are some times when I'd like open carry. When I'm in areas where I know all the people and they know I carry anyway it would just be a bit more comfortable to keep it on a drop leg holster or something, but out with the general public I'd rather stick with concealed carry. Why ruin the surprise for a BG? 
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« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2009, 02:09:16 AM » |
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What Wade said.
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« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2009, 02:11:49 AM » |
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Prefer concealed. Avoids problems with over-reactionary people, slips under the radar, etc...
If everything goes well, after March a permit won't be required for concealed carry in my state.
Hopefully ND gets to that point someday. We are trying to get cc allowed in more places. Took 6 weeks to get my CCP.
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« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2009, 08:57:07 AM » |
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OK, fair enough Rhodes. I'm just saying what you are claiming is a fact is simply not true, it is just your opinion, and the actual facts do oppose your viewpoint.
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« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2009, 08:30:06 PM » |
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OK, fair enough Rhodes. I'm just saying what you are claiming is a fact is simply not true, it is just your opinion, and the actual facts do oppose your viewpoint.
Ok you asked .. refer to this thread for a start and if you look more than a few minutes you will finds scads of gun theft incidents. http://www.usacarry.com/forums/open-carry-discussion/5972-man-open-carrying-robbed-his-gun.htmlIt happens and happens a lot more than we like to think, my opinion is sound and based on reality.
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« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2009, 06:33:39 AM » |
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The fact is we have to think about not putting ourselves into a situation that can lead to this... Walking the dog at 4:00 AM??? I don't go walking around at 0 dark 30 for this very reason... also you have to be on condition red in that type of situation and this fellow was not... Oc'ing requires a level of awareness above what even CC'ing does. Also the above mentioned incident happened in 06 and there are not a ton to be found... Another thing there is some question as to whether this was a false police report too..
The main thing is when open carrying you have to know what is going on around you... at 4:00 AM unless he was sleep walking there is no reason to get blind sided unless you are not on alert... Many people get used to a routine and get lazy and take for granted that nothing will happen... this is dangerous and can lead to this type of thing ... Also it is possible that these fellows didn't know he had a gun until they accosted him as unless it was nickel plated or he was in a well lit area I doubt it showed up much. They were probably regular muggers and took the opportunity that was presented them.
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