Is 2012 the new Y2K?

[SHOOTER Z]

Actually in Maine, Y2k had some merit as the computer for the DMV  was calling  all 2000 vehicles a horseless carrage.

That's because half the people in Maine drive a horseless carriage. 

With the road conditions in Maine, ya'll might as well stick with just horses.....

  I don't know some of the Maine roads were pretty nice compared to some in SC and further South. I know a concrete highway in LA that was rougher then an old dirt road I use to drive on.

[2TN Mules]

Sorry to hijack but I spent the first 30 something years of my life in LA and the roads are terrible.

[Ravingbantha]

Even if you do not buy into 'the Hype' behind 2012, one thing that cannot be disputed is the Mayan acuracy of knowledge and events...

* They knew, hundres of years before 'Western Civilizations' that the Earth Orbited the Sun and not the center of the Universe
* They predicted the exact day Spanish Explorers would arrive in South/Central America
* They knew the exact ammount of time it takes our Solar System to cross the Galactic Equater
* Predicted the time period in which Solar Storms would occure in greater intensity... 2012 (confirmed by NASA)
* predicted the exact day our solar system would pass the Galacti Equator.... 12/21/12
* Predicted the Day our Sun, planet, and Center of the Solar system would align... 12/21/12

 Just as a side note... those last 2 events have never occured, as far as Astronomers can tell, at the same time. Keep in mind these are facts, not speculation or Myth, that the Mayans said would happen and will/ have happened. As I understand it, to date, not one Mayan Prediction has been wrong.

[davejd]

Look folks... Don't worry about 2012 ... YESTERDAY was the end of the world, and we're all behind the curve.

[condition1]

Actually in Maine, Y2k had some merit as the computer for the DMV  was calling  all 2000 vehicles a horseless carrage.

I'll bet Texas is really glad to have you, shooter

I'm not changing one dang thing I do, 'brigde. I'll  have enough stuff to get by for a while, just like I do now. You're probably right about the release date for that stupid movie, hysteria will follow.

[One Eyed king]

Does anyone really believe that the Mayans could fortell the future? No doubt they were fabulous astronomers but that is not the same as seeing what future events will happen on earth. If they were so smart, how come they died out? And if they could foretell their ultimate demise, why bother to carve huge stone calendars that they would not be around to use???

Don't mean to be a wet blanket but all this sort of talk just dilutes the message that it's things like bushfires and floods (ie the more likely crisis's we might be presented with in our local areas) that we should all be preparing to survive.

Stonebridge might have a point; the more the media beat this up, the more likely it is that S&P supplies will increase in price around 2012. It would be prudent to avoid making major purchases around that time.

[Ravingbantha]

Does anyone really believe that the Mayans could fortell the future? No doubt they were fabulous astronomers but that is not the same as seeing what future events will happen on earth. If they were so smart, how come they died out? And if they could foretell their ultimate demise, why bother to carve huge stone calendars that they would not be around to use???

Don't mean to be a wet blanket but all this sort of talk just dilutes the message that it's things like bushfires and floods (ie the more likely crisis's we might be presented with in our local areas) that we should all be preparing to survive.

Stonebridge might have a point; the more the media beat this up, the more likely it is that S&P supplies will increase in price around 2012. It would be prudent to avoid making major purchases around that time.

 The Mayans knew their ownfall was comming, they also believed that such an event was inevitable and try as they might, they could not change it. as for completly dieing out... Mayan people still live on, their empire fell, but the people still live. As for why carving huge stone calanders foretelling future events... it's a matter of trying to warn future generations. If a huricane is comming your way, wouldn't you want warning? There's nothing you can do about stopping the Hurricane, even with warning, but you can prepare for it and do your best to survive it.

[godlessdustin]

I think the Mayan stuff is a bunch of Bologna, make a bunch of vague predictions and some are bound to come true.

[Ravingbantha]

I think the Mayan stuff is a bunch of Bologna, make a bunch of vague predictions and some are bound to come true.

 Their predictions weren't vauge, they were and are very detailed.

[stonebridge]

I guess I'm more worried about TEOTWAWKI due to self-fulfilling prophecy caused by pandemic hysteria than anything else.  I mean, if a doomsday meteor comes barreling in, we've only got a small window to get Bruce Willis on a rocket.  If that doesn't work, well, all the batteries and ammunition aren't going to save you.  No, it's people I worry about:

Edwards: Why the big secret? People are smart. They can handle it.
Kay: A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.

Just like there are a bunch of idiots running around after the election with newly purchased AR-15s having absolutely no clue how to use them safely, there'll be a bunch of idiots running around doing similarly stupid things in an attempt to rectify a lifetime of not prepping.  And driving up prices in the process.

-'bridge

[Ravingbantha]

 There is a possibility of a Self fullfilling prophecy, but then again that brings in an interesting Delima... Was it a Self Fullfilling prophecy to begin with? Despite that fact, most of the Prophecies surrounding 2012 are natural disasters and not so much man made. While I have no dount that many of our problem on the horizon will be man made, there are quite a number of natural disasters that are just as likely to occure in the next few years.

 This year is the First time in several years the SE region has gotten a god bit of rain.. so much so, in the first 3 months of this year, enough rain fell to bring our lakes and rivers out of drought level (average of 12' low). Several severe storms have been occuring in the MId-west recently, and now there's talk of a 'year wth no summer' for parts of the country. the NWA has released a statement saying that 'pop-up' hurricanes are likly to appear this year, far more so then ever before. The Sun will sart to act up soon... Yellowstone has been acting up all year... Mt St Hellens now appears to be a super Volcano... there's a 4% chance a massive metor will strike earth in 2036... Swine Flu possibilities... there's quite a number of natural issues that could come into play.

[godlessdustin]

Theres ALWAYS a natural disaster going on or about to o on somewhere. Doesn't take a prophesy to know that.

[Ravingbantha]

Theres ALWAYS a natural disaster going on or about to o on somewhere. Doesn't take a prophesy to know that.

 It is obvous from your posts as well as your handle that what you lack in this matter is faith. So no further point in discussing this with you.

[Swiftytheavenger]

It's like a Milky Way eclipse, everything will line up (in our system) that day, what does that mean, probably nothing. Its the Winter Solstice, shortest day of the year, but remember the Sun rises in the East sets in the West. The day starts way before us in Japan, etc.. So when the Sun is highest above us @ 12:00 noon its gonna be 8 o'clock at night for someone else. I have a rough time believing the world is set to end on any certain day given the perspective of time on different locatons of the globe.

Occasionally I'll read the crap online about a "Great Harvest" by some foreign 'spiritual advisors' who will turn the Earth into some paradise by removing around 80% of us unto another Earth type planet, and 'lucky' 20% stay here where they'll be able to do Jesus-style miracles and live forever, Ala-L.RonHubbard.

Heres a link to some of the crap :http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/Hidden_Hand.html

[Ravingbantha]

yes there are time zone issues... However the mayans (along with other cultures) did not have to worry about time zones, any predictions they made would be based off their local time. The same could be said for any other culture making a prediction, as it is all realitive to the person making the prediction. So you can safely say that anything the Mayans have predicted would be based off Eastern standard time, since most of the Mayan civilization fell in that time zone.