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« on: July 02, 2009, 02:42:59 PM » |
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Hey Folks - It sounds like a lot of you have Mosin Nagants. I guess that makes sense - a Soviet-tough high-power rifle for $79. I got one of the carbines and I'm just wondering if anyone has any ideas on taming that kick!
I'm over 200 pounds and usually kind of like a "kicker", but that thing is brutal! I've only had it out once, and even with a folded sweatshirt between my shoulder and the butt I barely finished a box.
So, how can I tame that beast? I don't handload, so I can't soft-load the rounds. Is is possible (read that "not too expensive") to change calibers in the thing? Could it be modified by a smith to fire .308 or, even better 7.62x39?
Talk to me. For right now it's just a really ugly fishing pole - with a bayonet.
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SeaBasS
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2009, 03:00:26 PM » |
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I have an m44. I don't think it is that bad of a recoil personally. My 18.5" mossy 12 with birdshot is worse than the Mosin. I am about 5'10" and 175. I don't know of any way to modify for different calibers, I personally wouldn't want to change it anyway, 7.62x54R is still pretty cheap to shot.
I would suggest to maybe use a limbsaver recoil pad to soften it a bit.
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SamStafford
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2009, 03:32:38 PM » |
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I love my MN's kick. I do have a slip on rubber butt pad on all my MNs.  |
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roadkill46
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2009, 06:59:12 PM » |
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i use a PAST recoil sholder pad, slips on like a shoulder holster, works great for those long range days. tames out the .308 pretty well also.
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Rhodes
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2009, 07:19:16 PM » |
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Try one of the new recoil pads the materials really soak up energy. I like the ones that attach to the stock but a slip on works just as well. Have to mention to make sure that stock is pulled back VERY FIRMLY for that shoulder weld even with a pad.
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The finest thing a man can do is hold to the wisdom his forefathers shed blood to teach us. Fear and Trust in God, Respect for American ideals and heritage, and always strive to be a better Rifleman. All other things flow from these.
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xstuntman
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2009, 08:40:17 PM » |
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I shoot the 147 grain and don't find the recoil bad; the 18? grain stuff is gotta little more kick. Throw a folded up towel, jacket, etc, over your shoulder and it'll help.
Make sure your holding it tight to your shoulder otherwise it'll thump you pretty good too. X
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SamStafford
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2009, 06:40:26 AM » |
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186 gr. Those are the KICKERS!!! |
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2009, 09:51:33 AM » |
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Get your self a .270 bolt gun. Fire a full box of rounds and then go back to the mosin. This should cure any kick issues.
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Rhodes
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2009, 10:36:58 PM » |
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Get your self a .270 bolt gun. Fire a full box of rounds and then go back to the mosin. This should cure any kick issues.
Better idea would be have someone kick you in the nads first...a lot of shooters have shoulder, back, and other issues that make recoil an issue on almost any round. Easy to fix though. |
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2009, 11:03:34 PM » |
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Oh Crap, I saw this one guy...he was doing something with his 30.06 rifle. He had the butt of his rifle resting on his leg(really closer to his nuts) and he jammed his bolt HARD with his hand...the rifle went off hitting his you know what. He was on the ground kicking and screaming. About 3 guys came over to help him up. His rifle was dug, barrel end in the dirt sticking up all by it self. That made my day!!!  |
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Rhodes
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2009, 11:04:56 PM » |
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Heh ok that is just too much justice lol
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DeMan
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2009, 12:51:51 PM » |
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It was the 186 grain rounds I shot. So it sounds like 1) Stick to the 147 grain aand 2) get a slip on recoil pad.
It doesn't sound like anyone's heard about changing the caliber?
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xstuntman
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2009, 05:33:52 PM » |
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Why change caliber? Its one of the best rounds available AND at a screaming good price too. I got eight hundred rounds sent to my front door for $183. Watching the UPS guy hold his back while walking away? Priceless! X |
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stonebridge
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2009, 05:45:54 PM » |
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My second Mosin was a rescued bubba (a Hex too!  ) with the ATI stock. I put a recoil pad on and filled the stock cavity with BBs. No more kick as one would expect with a 14-pound gun. The only Mosin I've seen rechambered was a custom sniper rifle in .300 WSM. -'b |
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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2009, 10:10:57 AM » |
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I just got used to it.
Once you get used to it, it's not so bad. The tighter you hold it to your shoulder, the less the kick is anything more than a shove. Kick really happens when you have kind of a sloppy, or lighthearted, firing hold on a weapon. Even a 9mm carbine can kick, if you hold it a half inch from your collar bone.
Once your in a life or death situation, normal nervousness and focus would probably correct a sloppy shooting hold. But just for your own peice of mind, shoot it a couple times while holding it so tight that you think your bicept is gonna cramp up.
It doesn't kick much held that tight.
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9mm C-9, 40sw, Hp995, Mosin Nagant M44, Rossi .22/.410(2), Remington 870 Express Magnum 12g.
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