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« on: August 11, 2009, 05:13:44 PM » |
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Hey folks. While shooting last weekend I came across this while loading a mag for my wife. This could have been real bad. Has anyone else come across any of these in the 100ct 9mm WWB ammo? Do you think this is worth writing Winchester about? Maybe score a free box of ammo. Im really just glad I noticed it before it got loaded into her 995. Any thoughts?  |
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2009, 05:22:18 PM » |
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I'd write them, what the heck couldn't hurt. They're going to want all the info off the box also, like any dates or lot #'s etc. Also send them pics, but do NOT send them the bullet.... you may need the evidence down the road.
Good eyes, seeing it in time.
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2009, 08:44:32 PM » |
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dont waste your time. ive found rounds with no bullets, no powder and no primers. dents, bullets in backwards etc. WWB is seconds and over-run so problems like this are fairly common. i treid and they said 'sorry, expect defects in seconds ammo".
SW
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Dane
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2009, 09:41:56 PM » |
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dont waste your time. ive found rounds with no bullets, no powder and no primers. dents, bullets in backwards etc. WWB is seconds and over-run so problems like this are fairly common. i treid and they said 'sorry, expect defects in seconds ammo".
SW
The 100 round WWB I have seen just say 'target' on them. Nothing about seconds or substandard ammo. Is there another WWB that is marked as seconds or with a disclaimer? |
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Beeg Boy
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2009, 10:57:34 PM » |
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Yikes!!!!!
That could have been very ugly.
I wouldnt spend too much time on it, but an email or a phone call wouldnt hurt.
And like others have said, I would keep the bullet as evidence.
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2009, 05:36:24 AM » |
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Roger that. Thanks for the insight. I'll send them an email with the pic and see where it goes. I guess this is just gives more weight to the load your own argument.
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2009, 03:34:18 PM » |
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they are not marked in any way but thats what they are. i have a freind who is an engineer for win/olin in the ammo R&D dept and he was the one who told me where the bulk pack ammo comes from. the 50 round count boxes with trrays in them are "premium" line ammo and the leftovers from that and military contratcs etc end up in boxes like this. QC is spotty at best, its more about making the maximum amount of ammo in the minimum time.
SW
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2009, 08:29:18 PM » |
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My buddy works at Ohlins near STL and told me to avoid WWB if possible in semi autos. I have always had problems with Winchester brass (too thin) in my military type semi auto firearms and mainly use Remington or Lake City in my rifles. Its "ok" in my bolt actions but i avoid it in my semi autos.
He didnt call it seconds but told me its not held to the same specs as the normal production lines. His CETME jams like mad with WWB 308 but shoots almost anything else just fine and the rifle is well past the break in period. It wouldnt fire anything but copper washed steel case reliably for the first 100 rounds.
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2009, 10:53:42 AM » |
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I haven't had any problems with using WWB, but I got a bad round in a box of Remington 9MM. I sent them a picture and I received a call from them a few days later. I didn't receive a refund or a free box of shells, but I did receive a free hat. Those hats sell for $10!!!
Have a good one!!!
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2009, 08:20:17 AM » |
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Yowza. My 995 absolutely refused to digest WWB so I haven't had it in the house for over a year. Either way it's a good idea to check ammo as you're loading the mags. Good catch.
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SamStafford
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2009, 12:38:58 PM » |
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Always check each round of ammo. I do. Better safe than sorry.
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2009, 02:12:16 PM » |
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Hmmm, wife's 995....hmmm could be my 995 if.... hmmmm!
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2009, 05:36:20 PM » |
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Dude, that could have been BAD! Good eyes finding it in time.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2009, 07:00:53 AM » |
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Do you think Walmart or any other store wants to put 2nd's on their packaging.
Do you notice WWB is usually the cheapest box you can find?
Next to blazer aluminum of course.
Do as SamStafford says "Always check each round of ammo. I do. Better safe than sorry."
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wade
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2009, 08:02:26 PM » |
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So is it only the loose packed WWB ammo that is known for these problems or the stuff in the little trays too?
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