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Author Topic: I'll just share a tip I learned from a month long missions trip in centraAmerica  (Read 887 times)
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« on: September 22, 2009, 07:24:41 AM »

I'm sure you guys already know all the little things that should be in a bug out bag but one thing I learned on my last medical missions trip to central America was to bring a $2 wal mart inflatable pool raft as a air matress. They fold down compact, are cheap, and are 1000 times better than any sleeping mat from cabelas. Don't argue with me about it. I lived on one for 33 days on dirt floors lol. There is always one in my trunk and one in my bag : )
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2009, 08:10:03 AM »

Not gonna argue at all, very good tip I had forgotten. Thanks for reminding me Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2009, 08:15:01 AM »

and a patch kit!
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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2009, 08:39:23 AM »

Patch kit? You mean duct tape? : ) or for the price of a patch kit, a second raft.
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2009, 04:17:47 PM »

100 MPH tape, 21 years in the Army, Combat Medic.  My raft has been just about everywhere.
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2009, 08:31:43 AM »

The only thing we ever had when hunting, as a bonus if your near a beach you can float on your mattress.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2009, 12:13:12 PM »

I'll argue.  My 19 year old Thermarest is far better than any cheap air mattress or pool toy.  Takes up a little more room, but I'm OK with that.
That said, ain't nothing wrong with an air mattress, as long as it keeps holding air.  My experience with Walmart pool toys is that half of them won't hold air when new, and the other half won't last an afternoon before losing containment.  There ARE some high and medium priced sleeping pads out there that are total crap...I've had some of them; so I understand your dislike of teh genre.
But a good Thermarest and some of the others are far better, and worth every penny.  And I am a CHEEEEEEP SOB, believe me.
BTW, my dad had a heavy duty air mattress, I don't know who made it.  Canvas covered rubber, about 5 pounds, and 5 inches think when inflated...he had to patch it a few times, but it was a great car camping item.  Very cushy... Cheesy 
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2009, 01:18:03 PM »

I got one of the cheap Hammocks that dont take up much room. I would rather be off the ground anyway. I will have to put it in my bag.
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2009, 05:35:15 PM »

Hammocks get really cold, when it is cold out. 
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2009, 09:12:37 PM »

YAY for the cheap fixes!!! And Duct tape for an inflatable raft is probably the best patch material, since the adhesive is based in natural rubber!  Good find man.
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2009, 12:59:31 AM »

I have a double sized Ozark Trail air mattress that's lasted the last 4 years of hunting seasons with absolutely zero issues. I think I'll stick with that for now. I do really like the idea of an inflatable pool raft, most of those seem to be very durable.
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2009, 03:58:55 PM »

Hammocks get really cold, when it is cold out. 

Unless you wrap yourself up in blankets!  It's keep you off the ground if it's wet out, keep groundbound bugs off of you, and assuming you can set it up, it's moderately comfy.

And on the topic of survival, how about you just tough it out and lay your sleeping bag on the ground, and pack something actually useful?   blink
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2009, 04:34:22 PM »

Hammocks get really cold, when it is cold out. 

Unless you wrap yourself up in blankets!  It's keep you off the ground if it's wet out, keep groundbound bugs off of you, and assuming you can set it up, it's moderately comfy.

And on the topic of survival, how about you just tough it out and lay your sleeping bag on the ground, and pack something actually useful?   blink
No, that isn't enough.  Normally most people sleep on something insulating, that is really all the thin GI pads are for.  The heat your body produces goes upward, convection you know, and so we use blankets/bags to keep it near our bodies, while insulating from the ground with a pad.  Thicker pads are used for comfort.  An air mattress makes a really good insulator, and is cushy too.  But in a hammock, you allow air to circulate under you, and you need more blankets there than on top to keep you warm, much more than if you were on an insulator.  Sleeping on the cold ground will do the same thing, until you heat the ground enough to stop losing heat into it...but as my survival guy says, "if you think you can heat the entire planet with your arse, you better think again"...   devilsidesmile
The fact is, a thin GI pad is worth a LOT more than you might think.  The thin 3/4 length Therm-rest pads are as light, and take up even less room than nearly any other pad.  And the groundbug thing may be valid...but if it is really cold, most of them are already gone anyway.  And when I said cold, I didn't mean 65 degrees... Wink 

I like the hammock, don't get me wrong; but it is only good three months of the year in my AO.
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2009, 08:00:08 PM »

Great tip!! Thanks
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2009, 08:10:56 PM »

LOL! Do they have character rafts? Will I be embarrassed in camp when I inflate my little kitty? I cruise the CLEARANCE isles and will look for the rafts.
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