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« on: October 30, 2009, 09:41:49 PM » |
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why doesnt hi-point do threaded barrels like most other modern carbines do? it seems weird that they use a pin on with a set screw that works its way out for muzzlebreaks and such. why not just do a thread like a ar/ak/sks(yugo) and others so muzzle breaks can be used with out the chance of them getting blown off due to set screws backing out.
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Mags50
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2009, 10:00:26 PM » |
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Just a guess but most likely it helps keep the cost down "which we all like" and not everyone wants a compensator! I do have one and I haven't had that problem at all! nor anything else for that matter.
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2009, 11:04:27 PM » |
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Take it to a machine shop and they could put the barrel in a die and add threads, then buy a smaller bore compensator and have it tapped for that barrel. See how much that costs you and then you will have an idea of why they dont do it.
Like posted above, would add more to the cost for something not everyone wants.
I for one think the most beautiful version of the 995 is an old style with an ATI stock and a naked barrel.
I have a 995TS and am thinking about selling the new stock, buying the ATI and doing just that thing.
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2009, 11:28:43 PM » |
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IMHO, muzzlebreaks/compensators are not needed on 9mm rifles, eccept to achieve that tacticool look.
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2009, 05:14:48 AM » |
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A threaded barrel in NY and also some other states may or may not cause the gun to be illegal also. Depending on the other option it has (stupid rules).
Maybe they are just trying to cater to as wide of a consumer base as possible.
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2009, 06:41:07 AM » |
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I believe the barrel on a hi-point is probably thin enough as it is, if you thread the barrel that woul mke it realy thin and easier to damage the crown or something and cause more warentee work for hi-point.
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2009, 03:27:03 PM » |
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One word COST
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Silicon Wolverine
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2009, 04:21:44 PM » |
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legal issues are bigger than cost. adding a threaded barrel locks out at least four states from selling these. you cant cut out that much customer base and keep going with an entry level carbine like this.
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2009, 10:47:56 AM » |
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just a question as in states like sd,sc NC and others it is legal to have threaded barrels cant say much about the left coast or NE but it may be something to think of as a option on the gun
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Silicon Wolverine
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2009, 11:28:31 AM » |
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threaded barrel cuts out CA, IL, NY, and NJ for starters. that a pretty good chunk of potential buyers theyd be cutting out.
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steves
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2009, 12:46:50 PM » |
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seems weird that an sks with a threaded barrel is sold in the states you mention, the only objection I have seen in the selling of threaded barrels is the cap of the mag usually less then 10 rds. if a threaded barrel was illegal in those states the all the sks/ar/ak carbines/rifles would be illegal including shotguns with threaded chokes ( had a Monkey ward 12 gauge that the choke was threaded on the barrel and you could change it).
as I asked in the LOCKED thread why not make it an option for the buyer they had to listen to people over the ox yoke stock, and allowed ati to do the other stock and then they changed to the tech-cool, so the option of stocks is there why not a barrel a small indent for a pin would not harm the barrel as it has been proven in many many applications of rifles before.
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Silicon Wolverine
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2009, 12:49:39 PM » |
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the SKS, AK and toher rifles going to those states have welded or pinned muzzle devices. were HP to do that it would escalate the cost of the weapon. the key to this is you can have it done yourself by a reputable gunsmith for 40-50$. if it comes from the factory end, it would add close to 100$ to the cost of the weapon due to manufacture changes, worker time and machinery. making the 995 or 4069 a 350-400$ weapon would price it outside of 90% of the demographic that buys these weapons.
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steves
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2009, 01:02:17 PM » |
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100 bucks to do a slight indent for a pin to sit in   heck I did moved a pin in my sks as the ati barrel was not long enough for the way the barrel was set up from factory. time 5 minutes of marking and a very slight cut, then 20cents for the pin and thread loc. Guess I was wrong as usuall, guess I will let my roommate mess with his 995 and I will stay with my SKS's/AK's/1022 and 1911 lwc 45acp. have a good one sorry to bother ya all with these questions but it just seemed weird to me they would sell crummy set screw ones and not decent ones that wont work out. and yes I have had se screw ones blow off that unless you do perm loc-tite the screw will work out over time thank god it was only on a 22 ruger and not something that could have hurt someone bad like a 7.62/39 or a 45 acp |
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