Handguns Should Be Strapped on the Hip, Not Concealed!

[Kcguy]

don't get me wrong, I am in no way ANTI OC.. but its not for me.

Do you think that, if it were more common, your view would be different?

For me yes..... I never see anyone oc where I live, which saddens me a bit, because I'd almost rather oc than have to pay for a permit and find a comortable way to cc.

[blklion77]

does he not know that you cab get a 45 that work good for cc and be close at hand when the SHTF

[ScooterLibby]

ROFL.... I've seen a LOT of really funny videos on YouTube, but I think this one takes the cake... 

[HILBLY]

I would rather carry concealed. Some people freak when they see a weapon on someone other than a cop and I dont want people knowing i am carrying cause yes you got morons out there who will go "Oh you must think  your a tough guy,gonna shoot me junk".Yes there are parents out there who should not have procreated.If you want to open carry thats cool,but for me i conceal.Even my wife has a permit when she got her walther p-22.The bummer thing is she got her ccp in 2 days and it was 2 weeks when i got mine.

[sean187]

I rather not show mine in public.if someone is going to rob or kill you,there more likely to go
ahead and kill you justby seeing my gun.if im in a store and someone is robbing it then i would
be the first person they would have their gun on so i think im going to feal better hiding it.the
element of suprise just may save my life one day.

[Delmar]

I rather not show mine in public.if someone is going to rob or kill you,there more likely to go
ahead and kill you justby seeing my gun.if im in a store and someone is robbing it then i would
be the first person they would have their gun on so i think im going to feal better hiding it.the
element of suprise just may save my life one day.

That I idea has already been discussed on this thread, and I still don't buy it.

That is a common argument against open carry, however, from what I understand there is not one single documented case of that ever happening.  

More likely he will see someone carrying and find another gas station to rob.

[Super Virgil]

i unserstand the OC argumwnt, but i don't want to have to deal with every soccer mom, that dials 911 at the first sight of a gun. Of course the cops are going to have to come out and investigate, and i really do not have time to deal with that. i do not want to have to deal with being asked to leavea buissnes because I am Ocing. I just want to get my stuff and go. With the public, as with the government, it is better for them not to know you have firearms in my opinion.

[cravnsn]

i unserstand the OC argumwnt, but i don't want to have to deal with every soccer mom, that dials 911 at the first sight of a gun. Of course the cops are going to have to come out and investigate, and i really do not have time to deal with that. i do not want to have to deal with being asked to leavea buissnes because I am Ocing. I just want to get my stuff and go. With the public, as with the government, it is better for them not to know you have firearms in my opinion.

A very good & valid point. And who’s to say that the store owner won’t pull out his gun thinking you’re there to rob him? This isn’t the “old west” after all.

[sean187]

I rather not show mine in public.if someone is going to rob or kill you,there more likely to go
ahead and kill you justby seeing my gun.if im in a store and someone is robbing it then i would
be the first person they would have their gun on so i think im going to feal better hiding it.the
element of suprise just may save my life one day.

That I idea has already been discussed on this thread, and I still don't buy it.

That is a common argument against open carry, however, from what I understand there is not one single documented case of that ever happening.  

More likely he will see someone carrying and find another gas station to rob.

well you dont have to buy it.we all make our own decisions and where
i live being in my shoe's than you might change the way you think.

[Delmar]

i unserstand the OC argumwnt, but i don't want to have to deal with every soccer mom, that dials 911 at the first sight of a gun. Of course the cops are going to have to come out and investigate, and i really do not have time to deal with that. i do not want to have to deal with being asked to leavea buissnes because I am Ocing. I just want to get my stuff and go. With the public, as with the government, it is better for them not to know you have firearms in my opinion.

Reasonable and well stated. I'm not trying to demand that anybody open carry, but I think it's is good that some do, where it is legal,  just to keep people aware that it is not a crime.

[Darkrein]

Good video. Guy makes a good point.

I had one of those 500 S&W. One hellava gun. Just couldn't afford to shoot it at over $3 per round.

It sure could make a watermelon disappear.  Was also very accurate with that long site radius.

[Butterbone]

There are TWO reasons I am getting my CCW this year.

#1. So I can open carry under every circumstance and not have to worry if my shirt slips over the pistol while I am throwing horseshoes or something in the park.

#2. So I can conceal carry a 38 or 380 in an ankle holster along with my regular open carry gun....you know.....just in case. LOL

I prefer open carry and I know already that OC stopped me being mugged outside a liquor store in my buddies neighborhood earlier this year. I'll post more about that in another thread.

[Bomber1]

i open carry and conceal when i feel like its more appropriate.  more appropriate includes denver county, where open carry is illegal.  i conceal if i am with people who don't like guns, or are uncomfortable with the attention that it draws.  i also conceal when its too cold to not wear a coat or something. 

i prefer open carry though, since its....well....since it doesn't require a permit.   

[townparkradio]

My whole take on the thing is pretty longwinded, but here goes... firstly, nobody needs a revolver as big as what that guy had.  No questions asked, if you feel the need to carry that for "self defense", you probably need therapy, or at least a reality check.  You're just not going to run into the mythical coked-up body armor wearing assailant.  It's not going to happen.  If it DOES happen, you should have spotted him long before he got close enough to assail you and left the area.  Self defense is more about avoiding situations in the first place then it will EVER be about finishing situations once started.

Secondly, that man is clearly drunk, and screwing with a firearm.  I don't care that he says "it's not loaded" and opens the action.  Every firearm is always loaded, and when you're drinking, you should not have a firearm in your hands.  I am not open to debate on this concept, and I fail to understand why so many people think it's debatable.  You don't get behind the wheel of a car when you've been drinking, and you don't toy with weapons, either, because of the above point  Every firearm is always loaded, and these things aren't toys.  You shouldn't even be screwing with a hammer when you're intoxicated.

Thirdly.. I do believe there are times for open carry.  When I am working in my yard or out hiking, it's time for open carry.  When I'm coming in off of a hike and need to stop at the store to get something, I'm shifting to concealed carry.  Multiple reasons, the first and foremost being: I don't want to talk to the kinds of people who accost me when I have a weapon on my hip in a town.  I don't want to talk to some random guy who cheers for my exercising my rights, and I don't want to deal with dumbass college lesbian-until-graduation pissing themselves in anger/fear/penis envy over it.

You know what the second reason is?  I don't believe it deters anything to open carry.  Living in a town where it's known that people commonly conceal and carry discourages crime, because they do not know who is carrying and who is not.  If someone decides they're going to commit a crime anyway, open carry does NOTHING except makes you the first target.  A gun on the hip doesn't leap to your hand fast enough to prevent you taking one to the back of the head. 

Then there are times you should NEVER even CONSIDER open carry.  You all may be familiar with Meleanie Hain.  I'm not talking about her death, domestic violence is domestic violence.  While she may have survived with just a heavy beating if there weren't guns nearby at hand; the situation should simply never come up.  Domestic violence is insanity.  I know someone is going to Internet White Knight here, but I don't much care.

I'm talking about her feeling the need to carry a weapon openly to a children's sporting event.  This is NOT sanity.  If you think it's a good idea, or even.. acceptable to open carry around a big pile of children, then you may wish to look into a psychiatric evaluation.  There are times and places where you are just not going to need a gun, but if you conceal one there I'm not going to argue.  Better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it, after all.  You have to have the common sense and maturity to judge when no good can come of your actions.  No good can come of carrying openly at a children;s sporting event, unless your idea of "good" is to get on the news.  I'm absolutely with the people who believe Meleanie was just a sad, deluded person with a need for attention.

If you live somewhere like I do, Montana, it's correct to sometimes carry openly.  Guns are normal here.  We also have respect for others and are adult enough to realize that just MAYBE parents don't want their kids asking them "mommy?  Is that man a lunatic?".  In Montana, open and concealed carry are correct at different times. 

In suburbia, where I grew up?  My father carried correctly.  He has a snub nosed .38 that was with him at all times, and I did not know about it until I was 15, and he fired on someone who pointed a gun at my mother.  I never even knew my father had that gun.  I knew we had a nice .45 at home for defense, never once was it needed but it was there and even us kids knew how to use it.  The snubbie?  Totally shocked me.  And you know what?  In suburbia, this is the correct way to carry.  Nobody needs to know you're carrying.  This was a stupid, random thing, and in broad daylight with TONS of witnesses.  Someone just decided to attack my mother.  I am absolutely certain that, if my father were open carrying, the situation would have started with a bang, so to speak, and not from the good guy.

If you live somewhere a lot of people open carry (there are towns here like that), fine; open carry.  If you're the only person with a gun?  Put it away; you're only inviting trouble to yourself.  One way or another, be it busybody activists or just plain a nutcase, you're inviting trouble by open carrying there.

I'll let others discuss peacocking, because I just giggle when I see that behavior.  Not all Open Carry is peacocking but... man.. a hell of a lot of it sure is.

[Bomber1]

My whole take on the thing is pretty longwinded, but here goes... firstly, nobody needs a revolver as big as what that guy had.  No questions asked, if you feel the need to carry that for "self defense", you probably need therapy, or at least a reality check.  You're just not going to run into the mythical coked-up body armor wearing assailant.  It's not going to happen.  If it DOES happen, you should have spotted him long before he got close enough to assail you and left the area.  Self defense is more about avoiding situations in the first place then it will EVER be about finishing situations once started.

Secondly, that man is clearly drunk, and screwing with a firearm.  I don't care that he says "it's not loaded" and opens the action.  Every firearm is always loaded, and when you're drinking, you should not have a firearm in your hands.  I am not open to debate on this concept, and I fail to understand why so many people think it's debatable.  You don't get behind the wheel of a car when you've been drinking, and you don't toy with weapons, either, because of the above point  Every firearm is always loaded, and these things aren't toys.  You shouldn't even be screwing with a hammer when you're intoxicated.

Thirdly.. I do believe there are times for open carry.  When I am working in my yard or out hiking, it's time for open carry.  When I'm coming in off of a hike and need to stop at the store to get something, I'm shifting to concealed carry.  Multiple reasons, the first and foremost being: I don't want to talk to the kinds of people who accost me when I have a weapon on my hip in a town.  I don't want to talk to some random guy who cheers for my exercising my rights, and I don't want to deal with dumbass college lesbian-until-graduation pissing themselves in anger/fear/penis envy over it.

You know what the second reason is?  I don't believe it deters anything to open carry.  Living in a town where it's known that people commonly conceal and carry discourages crime, because they do not know who is carrying and who is not.  If someone decides they're going to commit a crime anyway, open carry does NOTHING except makes you the first target.  A gun on the hip doesn't leap to your hand fast enough to prevent you taking one to the back of the head. 

Then there are times you should NEVER even CONSIDER open carry.  You all may be familiar with Meleanie Hain.  I'm not talking about her death, domestic violence is domestic violence.  While she may have survived with just a heavy beating if there weren't guns nearby at hand; the situation should simply never come up.  Domestic violence is insanity.  I know someone is going to Internet White Knight here, but I don't much care.

I'm talking about her feeling the need to carry a weapon openly to a children's sporting event.  This is NOT sanity.  If you think it's a good idea, or even.. acceptable to open carry around a big pile of children, then you may wish to look into a psychiatric evaluation.  There are times and places where you are just not going to need a gun, but if you conceal one there I'm not going to argue.  Better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it, after all.  You have to have the common sense and maturity to judge when no good can come of your actions.  No good can come of carrying openly at a children;s sporting event, unless your idea of "good" is to get on the news.  I'm absolutely with the people who believe Meleanie was just a sad, deluded person with a need for attention.

If you live somewhere like I do, Montana, it's correct to sometimes carry openly.  Guns are normal here.  We also have respect for others and are adult enough to realize that just MAYBE parents don't want their kids asking them "mommy?  Is that man a lunatic?".  In Montana, open and concealed carry are correct at different times. 

In suburbia, where I grew up?  My father carried correctly.  He has a snub nosed .38 that was with him at all times, and I did not know about it until I was 15, and he fired on someone who pointed a gun at my mother.  I never even knew my father had that gun.  I knew we had a nice .45 at home for defense, never once was it needed but it was there and even us kids knew how to use it.  The snubbie?  Totally shocked me.  And you know what?  In suburbia, this is the correct way to carry.  Nobody needs to know you're carrying.  This was a stupid, random thing, and in broad daylight with TONS of witnesses.  Someone just decided to attack my mother.  I am absolutely certain that, if my father were open carrying, the situation would have started with a bang, so to speak, and not from the good guy.

If you live somewhere a lot of people open carry (there are towns here like that), fine; open carry.  If you're the only person with a gun?  Put it away; you're only inviting trouble to yourself.  One way or another, be it busybody activists or just plain a nutcase, you're inviting trouble by open carrying there.

I'll let others discuss peacocking, because I just giggle when I see that behavior.  Not all Open Carry is peacocking but... man.. a hell of a lot of it sure is.

you know, for being brand new around here, you sure are opinionated. 

i don't really care what other people think, so i am just going to say that i disagree with just about everything you said but i'm not going to get into why.

and i will continue to open carry pretty much everywhere i go.