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I bought a sporterized Winchester P1917 on July 3rd this past summer. It was professionally sportered I am assuming in the 60's early 70's? I wanted to mount a scope on it but quickly found out that in order to do so properly, I would have to mount a weaver rail across the top. This was going to prove challenging because the front and rear of the receiver both slope opposite of each other on the P1917 after a sporterization when the rear sight is milled off. So I took it to a gunsmith in Sterling IL. I dropped it off sometime in the middle of July. It took him such a long time because he had never done a scope mount like this before. He had an old magazine with an article on how to do it and went off that. He drilled and tapped two tiny holes in the front of the rail and one in the rear. These 3 set screws would just rest on the receiver while three other mounting screws held the rail down. This way he could mount the rail yet have it adjustable so that he could get the rail square with the bore of the barrel. After getting it mounted he sprayed a release agent on the receiver and then re-mounted the rail with a bunch of this epoxy called "Steel Bed". Once the steel bed was cured he removed the rail and then re-machined the rail so that all of the Steel Bed that squished out the sides was flush with the sides of the rail. He remounted the rail, added the scope, and set the scope up on something he called a "Culminator". He said he checked it at 100 yards and it was perfect without even touching the settings on the scope. I think it turned out to be an excellent job. So, I think I did Ok. I have $500.00 total into this rifle now but its ready to go. Don't look too bad for a 93 year old Winchester made knock off of an Eddystone LOL!!    |
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2009, 05:50:43 AM » |
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Thats a beautiful rifle you have there. Congrats!
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2009, 06:39:17 AM » |
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beautiful piece Hammer, truly!
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2009, 06:47:28 AM » |
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Wow, that's a real handsome rifle!
Good luck with her.
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2009, 04:16:24 PM » |
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Gorgeous rifle and a damn fine 'smith you have. I love seeing gunsmiths use older approachs and turn out results like this.
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2009, 04:45:00 PM » |
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The guy is a great gunsmith. Aint afraid to try anything new either.
He cut me a break on the bill cause it was the first time he's done one like this, he charged me $75.00. He also said that the next one will be more money since he's done one now and knows what he's doing. He dumped a lot of time into reaserch/trial error on this one.
I am going to have him remove the massive bayonet stub on my SKS when I pick it up from my LGS.
Awesome gunsmith. Ed Loos in Sterling IL. Go through Kenny Rigler at Rigler's Sporting Supply in Rock Falls.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2009, 05:01:52 PM » |
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The one sporterized gun I ever did was an SKS, I didn't mess with removing the bayo stud, just cut and recrowned the barrel. Accuracy after that was much improved over stock configuration. What is yours, Norinco, Yugo?
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2009, 06:02:51 PM » |
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The one sporterized gun I ever did was an SKS, I didn't mess with removing the bayo stud, just cut and recrowned the barrel. Accuracy after that was much improved over stock configuration. What is yours, Norinco, Yugo?
I belieive my SKS is the Norinko (still on Lay Away). It is the one that has the factory wood sporter stock ( not thumb hole, not military) and it takes AK mags. There is a block where the bayonet would have been had one been installed, but instead of drilling and tapping it they ground the ears off and left it. I find it quite ugly. So Ed is going to machine it down for me so that all is there is the hole for the cleaning rod. |
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2009, 06:09:58 PM » |
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That is a very good looking rifle, curious what caliber is it if I may ask?
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2009, 06:26:56 PM » |
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That is a very good looking rifle, curious what caliber is it if I may ask?
30-06 |
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2009, 06:51:06 PM » |
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That is a very good looking rifle, curious what caliber is it if I may ask?
30-06 Sweet! It looks like an excellent shooter! |
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2009, 10:42:28 AM » |
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instead of drilling and tapping it they ground the ears off and left it. I dunno why so many SKS are done that way. Dumb IMO, I'd grind it off too. |
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2009, 11:03:24 AM » |
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I think Ed said something about milling it, and that he can pretty it up quite a bit. He said that in the early 1990's when the assault weapons ban went into effect he did a lot of them for customers who feared ATF taking their guns just because they had a Bayonet lug. (panicky costumers I guess)
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2009, 12:02:19 PM » |
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instead of drilling and tapping it they ground the ears off and left it. I dunno why so many SKS are done that way. Dumb IMO, I'd grind it off too. When the Chinese imported them they had to comply with BATFE regulations. Some of the Norinco's were to have their bayo lugs permanently altered to not accept a bayonet. |
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2009, 12:55:23 PM » |
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Then just weld a bayonet onto it lol...
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