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« on: November 14, 2009, 10:12:22 AM » |
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I have noticed a lot of SKS guys around here, I was just wondering why you would chose one over an AK? Is it a rifle on hand issue or the sligthly better accuracy? I am thining of setting up an SKS scout rifle as a weapon I could hand to a friend if he knock on my door after a catastrophy, something easy to use and idiot proof. But the more I think about it with todays prices an AK seems to make more sense. What do you guys think?
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2009, 10:35:50 AM » |
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I have noticed a lot of SKS guys around here, I was just wondering why you would chose one over an AK? Is it a rifle on hand issue or the sligthly better accuracy? I am thining of setting up an SKS scout rifle as a weapon I could hand to a friend if he knock on my door after a catastrophy, something easy to use and idiot proof. But the more I think about it with todays prices an AK seems to make more sense. What do you guys think?
If I had to go & make a purchase of one over the other today, I'd go with the AK. When SKS's sold for $70-$90 it was different. FWIW, of the 2 & for my own use, I'd use a SKS as a scout rifle. Even with bad ammo the SKS isn't just a little more accurate. It's greatly more accurate. I do have the choice. Neither one would be my first pick. But the AK would be my last. Remember a good scout doesn't get into situation that call for shooting. |
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2009, 10:41:20 AM » |
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AK for sure, I love SKS but an AK is a better choice for your premise, also I agree considering prices SKSs are still on the high end and AK prices are dropping daily.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2009, 10:42:26 AM » |
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SKS, all the way! I have one china sks and one yugo sks. The few AK-47s that I have shot were okay ones. The milled AK-47s are better just hard to find and cost more. Yeah, AK-47s are smaller than SKSs...but I'm not a spray and pray type of guy. Just my 2 cents.
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2009, 11:22:16 AM » |
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SKS, all the way! I have one china sks and one yugo sks. The few AK-47s that I have shot were okay ones. The milled AK-47s are better just hard to find and cost more. Yeah, AK-47s are smaller than SKSs...but I'm not a spray and pray type of guy. Just my 2 cents.
Even a milled AK isn't that good at shot placement. One needs to remember that a scouts mission is to NOT engage. It is to see, but not be seen. It is to hear, but not be heard. To report back, but not be reported as have been around. |
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2009, 11:23:49 AM » |
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I have both, so it would depend on the threat or situation that I'm facing. If defending Fort Apache (home) the AK will be my choice. If I bug out to the boonies I'll handle the SKS and a family member will provide backup with the AK. I also other choices.  |
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2009, 12:28:14 PM » |
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For me it is the AK. Because I have one. I would like to also have an sks but I would still chose the AK.
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Beowolf1911
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2009, 04:14:18 PM » |
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SKS, all the way! I have one china sks and one yugo sks. The few AK-47s that I have shot were okay ones. The milled AK-47s are better just hard to find and cost more. Yeah, AK-47s are smaller than SKSs...but I'm not a spray and pray type of guy. Just my 2 cents.
Even a milled AK isn't that good at shot placement. One needs to remember that a scouts mission is to NOT engage. It is to see, but not be seen. It is to hear, but not be heard. To report back, but not be reported as have been around. I argee with your comments but I wasn't talking a rifle for a scout I was thinking a scout configuration, because I think it would be a better all around gun for someone with little experiance. As far as groupsings go, I would most likely have a low power scope on it, AKs with a 3X scope can easily do 2-3 inch groups at 100 yards, I think that is acceptable. |
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2009, 05:04:07 PM » |
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SKS, all the way! I have one china sks and one yugo sks. The few AK-47s that I have shot were okay ones. The milled AK-47s are better just hard to find and cost more. Yeah, AK-47s are smaller than SKSs...but I'm not a spray and pray type of guy. Just my 2 cents.
Even a milled AK isn't that good at shot placement. One needs to remember that a scouts mission is to NOT engage. It is to see, but not be seen. It is to hear, but not be heard. To report back, but not be reported as have been around. I argee with your comments but I wasn't talking a rifle for a scout I was thinking a scout configuration, because I think it would be a better all around gun for someone with little experiance. As far as groupsings go, I would most likely have a low power scope on it, AKs with a 3X scope can easily do 2-3 inch groups at 100 yards, I think that is acceptable. Both are "new recruit" & battle tested. One thing about an AK is the new person would know what it is as soon as they see it. We all have our own criteria for what is needed from a gun. For me one thing I like is the number of rounds fired that hit a certain size target at 350-400 yards. Free hand & standing. Both the AK & SKS will do it, its just that the AK uses more ammo doing it. |
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2009, 05:34:51 PM » |
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it was two reasons for me:
1. the price. before and even now, sks cost < ak
2. simple rifle to break down and decent accuracy.
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jmstevens2
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2009, 09:56:18 AM » |
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If I am setting up an ambush the AK is OK, but really what are we going to use it for? The SKS has better accuracy at distance (hunting and protection), they use the same round, OK, The AK is shorter (better in dense brush) my SKS is about the same weight, I replaced the stock with a Tapco to reduce weight and make 20 round mags that are replaceable work which takes away the capacity advantage to the AK. And realistically, You can't get the full auto, so if you are in a spray and pray the SKS is just as fast. I don't believe in spray and pray. This isn't the Army where I have endless resupply. I may have no resupply outside of pick ups from defeats.
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2009, 01:12:13 PM » |
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Its pretty much semantics. both are acceptable rilfes in the role. the SKS has a slight edge on accuracy. the AK has a huge edge in capacity and firepower. for a scout rifle ill take a bolt action with low to midieum power optics.
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2009, 09:17:17 PM » |
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I'd probably go with the good old M 1 or AR 15, both are 1000 yard rifles with the right ammo and optics. They both out shoot me at this point. I just stuck with the "between the two" thread. Really, outside of 300 yards, I'm just gonna watch unless I really need to intervene. Kinda like running TO the shots in the mall instead of AWAY.
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2009, 12:16:32 PM » |
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For a rifle to hand to a guy with no skill and no training...the AK. Just tell him not to shoot 'til he can hit the target with a rock, and all will be well.  If the guy could actually shoot, and knew how to load and use stripper clips, the SKS would be a far more useful gun, IMHO. |
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2009, 01:39:45 PM » |
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The SKS I think would be a simpler rifle SHTF. NO crap-tastic mags to rock in. In my opinion the SKS is tougher and easier to maintain. Buy another bolt, spring and possibly a piston rod incase anything happens.
What if something bad really does happen? Imagine running off alone carrying a WASR and a bunch of mags. The SKS can be loaded by hand.
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