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Old 02-19-2011, 10:28 PM   #1
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Default 9mm verse 45ACP at 100 yards

If there's a post about this already point me to it.

Which is more effective at the 100 yard point - 9mm or 45ACP?
Does the 45ACP have a significant "drop off" at 100 yards or ?

I'm looking to have a "one caliber protocol" for my weapons. Having a
side arm and a carbine that use the same ammo would make a lot of sense.
I still am of the (misguided?) belief that the 45ACP would be the better PD weapon.
My newb brain tells me that the 9mm would be better at 100 yards tho.

I am not trying to start a **** storm - just a newb looking for opinions :embarrassed2:

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Old 02-19-2011, 10:34 PM   #2
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Default Re: 9mm verse 45ACP at 100 yards

Here is the long and short of it.

Unless you know a special load for either caliber.
The standard 230gr will drop too much at 100 yards without adjusting.
The 9mm may not hit hard enough but will still injure your target.
The .40S&W will hit harder and drop less.

Out of the three using standard factory ammo I would say either 9m or 40S&W. If you are hunting for legal purposes I say .40S&W. Not a big fan of .40 overall as 9mm and 45acp will do just as good or better at <50 yards.

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Other thoughts and this is all personal opinion.
If you are on a strict budget and can't afford a lot of ammo. Go 9mm.
If you are in a state that has capacity limitations. Go 45acp.
If you want to share mags, live in a state that has capacity limitations, your practice wallet isn't so good, and you must go out to 100 yards then .40 S&W.
If you want the best "punch" at under 50 yards. I think 45acp is the way to go.

All of this is opinion based on research. There are ballistic table charts you can look up online that give you "rough" specs. But if you are a handloader, or know someone with the ability and time to compare results data of ammo then thats the better way to go.

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Old 02-19-2011, 10:50 PM   #3
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Default Re: 9mm verse 45ACP at 100 yards

E X A C T L Y the type of answer I was looking for. Thanks a ton.

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Default Re: 9mm verse 45ACP at 100 yards

Check out this website for info on the two when used in longer barrels...

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/9mmluger.html

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Default Re: 9mm verse 45ACP at 100 yards

What battousai said.

Except for one thing...and this is a bit theoretical, as my trajectory calculator says it will work, but I don't know which, if any, sights or scopes will allow for enough adjustment.

If you zero at 25 yards, there is a ton of drop for the 45 at 100 yards, like 12-20 inches, depending on the load.

But IF you can zero the .45 at 100 yards, it will only be a maximum of 4.5 inches high at around 35-40 yards, while still only 2.5" high at most closer SD ranges. Aimed center mass, that is still good enough for SD, while allowing you to simply put your sights on a 100 yard target, and shoot.

But the .40 will do that as well, and probably better.

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Old 02-20-2011, 04:06 PM   #6
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Default Re: 9mm verse 45ACP at 100 yards

This is the exact problem I am having. Which one to get, A 9mm, 40SW or the 45 ACP. I would like to do close range hunting 100 yrds or less. Target and just blasting ammo.

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Default Re: 9mm verse 45ACP at 100 yards

i just picked up the .45 and plan on getting the 40 and maybe the 9mm but it looks like as far as hunting goes i will probably pick up a stevens 200

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the 9mm wont hit as hard at 100 yards as the 40 but it will be more accurate. the lower ballisitic coefficnet of the 9mm vs the 40 makes it a better long ragne contender. the 40 will retain more power at the distance due to higher velocity and bullet weight but wont be as accurate. if your just punching paper 9mm all the way. if youre looking at killing at that distance go for the 40. the 45 doesnt have either advantage at 100 yards.

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Default Re: 9mm verse 45ACP at 100 yards

I understand the one round mentality, but considering most modern firearms are feed by a detachable box mag I don't feel it is that relevent anymore. If you want a rifle that is truly effective at 100 yards get a real rifle. Since your ammo that is "ready" will be in mags anywhay who care if you have two types of loose ammo in your pack/safe. The point of the single ammo when it was popular was because most of the rifles at the time took pistol rounds anyway (the small leverguns that were popular at the time) and the ammo was held loose and loaded individualy. Since with modern firearms you are loading a new mag it just isn't worth it.

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I understand the one round mentality, but considering most modern firearms are feed by a detachable box mag I don't feel it is that relevent anymore. If you want a rifle that is truly effective at 100 yards get a real rifle. Since your ammo that is "ready" will be in mags anywhay who care if you have two types of loose ammo in your pack/safe. The point of the single ammo when it was popular was because most of the rifles at the time took pistol rounds anyway (the small leverguns that were popular at the time) and the ammo was held loose and loaded individualy. Since with modern firearms you are loading a new mag it just isn't worth it.

The point of single ammo was and is logistical and economic. If you reload it makes even more sense just as it did then. whether you have to load singly or a detachable mag makes little difference.
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