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Old 07-28-2012, 10:41 PM   #21
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Many so-called Picatinny or Weaver won't fit in either. I have Picatinny rings that will fit in one brand of Pic rail, but not another Pic rail. I have a Picatinny rail that almost nothing fits in.
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:36 PM   #22
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Many so-called Picatinny or Weaver won't fit in either. I have Picatinny rings that will fit in one brand of Pic rail, but not another Pic rail. I have a Picatinny rail that almost nothing fits in.
Is it a defect
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:45 PM   #23
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Go to it clearly states pic rail on hp. Com and look u bafoon maybey yours had a defect in it all my pic stuff works magpul afg works. Laser. red dot .flashlight. bipod wtf. U cant be wrong dude you are mistaken bro u lied call hp u pole smoker.
dosnt really matter what its "states" it if measures something else. someone could easily have been mistaken when typing what it sates, god knows hi-point isnt exaclty big on updating what they print or post. take a look at your warrenty information for example.

and if he called hi-point i would bet they wouldnt run over and measuer it for him, they would probably read what it says online. verifying with a caliper is most defintely the best way to find out.

and man that feels like an angry post for no reason,
didnt even use the rant on rant off feature.
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Maybe their tech-writer program is a low budget operation.
But what bother me is not being able to find Weaver specification drawings.
I seem to only find Picatinny specification drawings.
What's up with that?
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:52 AM   #25
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Go to it clearly states pic rail on hp. Com and look u bafoon maybey yours had a defect in it all my pic stuff works magpul afg works. Laser. red dot .flashlight. bipod wtf. U cant be wrong dude you are mistaken bro u lied call hp u pole smoker.
Calmed down yet?
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Wow so much anger. I say why can't we all get along.........and not smoke poles :-)
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Check these picatinny dimensions to the dimensions you already have.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M1913A_Rail_CrossSection.svg
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Go to it clearly states pic rail on hp. Com and look u bafoon maybey yours had a defect in it all my pic stuff works magpul afg works. Laser. red dot .flashlight. bipod wtf. U cant be wrong dude you are mistaken bro u lied call hp u pole smoker.
Tacky thing to call somebody a buffoon. Even tackier when you can't spell the word.


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lol...i lost track of the score

did anybody win yet ?
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Maybe their tech-writer program is a low budget operation.
But what bother me is not being able to find Weaver specification drawings.
I seem to only find Picatinny specification drawings.
What's up with that?
I remember reading that Weaver rails don't really have a specification like Pic rails. Pic rails have an actual military specification document filed.

Here's what Brownell's has to say...
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What are the differences between the “Picatinny” and the “Weaver” systems? The profile of the two systems is virtually identical. Depending on the quality of the machining done by the manufacturer, the two systems should be indistinguishable from the profile. The key difference lies in the placement of the recoil grooves and with width of the grooves. MIL-STD-1913 (Picatinny) grooves are .206” wide and have a center-to-center width of .394”. The placement of these grooves has to be consistent in order for it to be a true “Picatinny” MIL-STD system. Weaver systems have a .180” width of recoil groove and are not necessarily consistent in a center-to-center measurement from one groove to the next. In many instances, a Weaver system has a specific application that it is machined for, so interchangeability is not necessarily an issue. A MIL-STD-1913 system must adhere to the specifications listed above in order for it to be considered MIL-STD, since the military desires uniformity in the recoil grooves to allow for different systems to be mounted on the weapon with no concern for compatibility.

Now, what does this mean to you? Boiled down, it means that accessories designed for a Weaver system will, in most cases, fit on a “Picatinny” system. The reverse, however, is probably not the case. Due to the larger recoil groove, “Picatinny” accessories will not fit a Weaver system. There are, of course, exceptions to every rule, but for a good rule-of-thumb, “Picatinny” won’t fit Weaver, but Weaver will fit “Picatinny”.
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