[xXChromeGhostXx]

Originally Posted by mikein1

Watching the news each evening leads me to believe "zombie breakouts" can occur for almost any reason nowadays. From a college football team winning the March Madness Madness, to some real or perceived civil injustice, it appears that there are large numbers of people just looking for an excuse to do crazy, dangerous things. Add to that, as Flyboy stated, natural disasters that can trigger panic amongst us everyday citizens, and I think the scene is set for folks to give some very careful thought to the "what ifs" we face. Call your BOB an "emergency preparedness kit" and stock it with things you and your family will need to survive for a week or so without electricity, water, food, ATM's, banks or police protection from looters. If you think it's "stupid," don't tell anyone you're doing it; keep it tucked away and not on display where your friends can see it. But it's my feeling that anyone who is not concerned about his or his family's safety in today's volatile social, economic and political environment has got to be kidding themselves.

I would like to say that i don't think a BOB is stupid i may have stated that wrongly i'm sorry. I meant it as in - strictly for a zombie way of speaking - it seems silly an kinda absurd i completely understand the necessity of and i am currently working on one for a True emergency, currently, and as of now I have inside - several boxes of 9mm ammo, shotgun ammo, several gallons of water in the freezer changed out every so often, assorted packs of batteries, two maglites and a lamplite, backup bulbs for each. TP haha, my C9 kept close, a small tackle box for fishing, a flint, and currently working on non perishable foods, noodles and the likes. and currently trying figure out what type of radio would be a good choice, not really a huge radio man, know honestly very little about them.

[mikein1]

Good, xX! Sounds like you've taken steps to get ready. My use of the term "zombies" may have been ill-advised. It's over-used to the point where I've started dumping all emergency planning into "zombie defense," when in fact misbehaving people during a crisis is only part of the problem we may face; although it can be a serious one. Just ask the folks who lived through the Katrina disaster and its aftermath.

[xXChromeGhostXx]

I agree completely, people when put under that sort of "stress" will show true human nature inside themselves and well if i had to bug out i would rather have atleast enough to survive for a few weeks and get myself to a location i can hold maintain and keept myself supplied with food water etc. while others are runnin around like " Zombies " robbing looting and other worthless things

[mikein1]

And this just appeared in my email reader. Even though it's directed at Texans, anyone can get them and some of them will apply to folks who do not ranch or farm for a living.

Expert: Prepare now by downloading disaster-related publications to mobile devices
COLLEGE STATION – In conjunction with the state’s Hurricane Preparedness Week and other preparedness efforts, the Texas AgriLife Extension Service has made many of its disaster and emergency-related materials available in e-book format for mobile device users.

“With hurricane season approaching, this is a key time for AgriLife Extension to again make Texas residents aware of its many hurricane preparedness and other disaster-related resources and to let them know which are now available as e-books,” said Dr. Andy Vestal, Agrilife Extension director for homeland security and emergency management at Texas A&M University in College Station.


The Texas AgriLife Extension Service, an educational outreach agency of the Texas A&M University System, has made many of its emergency and disaster materials available in e-book format for mobile device users. With hurricane season approaching, the agency is encouraging Texans to take time now to download these helpful materials in advance of an actual natural disaster. (Texas AgriLife Extension Service photo)

Vestal said converting hurricane preparedness publications to e-book format was a result of actions by AgriLife Extension and Texas AgriLife Research incident response team members engaged in the statewide Mobile Device Initiative.

“These e-books provide just-in-time disaster recovery information and we hope as many Texans as possible will take the opportunity to download this information to their mobile device so they can be ready now that we’re nearing hurricane season,” he said.

“This is a simple but effective first step Texans can take toward basic hurricane preparedness and dealing with the aftermath of a hurricane or other natural disaster,” said Treye Rice, AgriLife Extension web design and usability specialist, College Station.

Rice, who manages and supplies some content for the Texas Extension Disaster Education Network, or Texas EDEN website, said the new e-book publications may be found at http://texashelp.tamu.edu/disaster-preparedness-recovery-ebooks.php.

He said the materials may be downloaded to any mobile device supporting the e-book format, including phones, tablets and e-readers.

“These disaster preparedness and recovery e-books provide simple information on how individuals, families and businesses can prepare for and recover from a disaster,” said Dr. Joyce Cavanagh, AgriLife Extension specialist in family development and resource management, College Station. “They contain practical, useful information provided by AgriLife and Texas A&M System experts, as well as experts from state and federal agencies and from throughout the national land-grant university Extension system.”

Hurricane and other disaster preparedness and recovery materials now available in e-book format are:

– After a Disaster – Information to Help Your Family Recover: This guide provides credible and reliable information on disaster preparedness and recovery for individuals and families in urban and rural communities, emphasizing how to reduce the damage associated with a disaster. Available in English and Spanish.

– Preparing Your Evacuation “Grab and Go” Box: Explains the need for an individual and family evacuation plan, as well as suggested contents for an evacuation “to-go” box to be prepared for emergency situations.

– Hurricane Preparedness for Livestock Producers: This guide shows how to help protect livestock from injury should a hurricane occur and briefly covers vaccinations, barn preparation, livestock evacuations, feed, and hay and water storage.

– Care and Treatment of Livestock After a Hurricane: Hurricanes can put livestock in immediate danger of drowning from flooding, plus flying debris or collapsing buildings can injure animals. This publication has information on what livestock owners might expect after a hurricane strikes and provides suggestions on handling affected livestock.

– Emergency Food and Water Supplies: Safe food and water supplies are a major concern following a natural disaster. Families who live in disaster-prone areas can benefit from this information on how to safely handle food and water in the days immediately following a disaster.

– Handling Food and Drinks When Losing Power: This brief guide explains what is safe to eat or refreeze and what should be thrown out after loss of power to the home.

– Disinfecting Water After a Disaster: After a disaster such as a hurricane or flood, water supplies may have become contaminated or been temporarily cut off. This guide briefly explains how to disinfect water using household chemicals, how to find water in and around your home, and how to store water safely.

– Tree Care Kit: This guide helps show how to improve urban tree health, position trees to better withstand hurricanes and other severe weather, and minimize damage to and loss of trees and surrounding structures.

– Protection of Rangeland and Pastures from Wildfire: Grazing lands are subject to wildfire because of an abundance of fine fuel, dry conditions and proximity to an ignition source. This publication shows how rangeland and pastures may be better protected from accidental fires, such as employing the use of firebreaks.

– After a Wildfire: Checklist of Considerations for Post-Fire Management: The loss of standing vegetation affects not only the availability of food for livestock, but also of food and habitat for wildlife. This publication provides a checklist of considerations for post-fire management.

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[Bitsman]

Hands down.. 22lr is my favorite.... Both the guns that fire this round and the cost of ammo is its prime attraction for my.. For $20 I can shoot damn near all day.. or at least until my thumb and fingers are too raw from loading mags. Yes when at the range I make sure to put at least a few mags or cylinders full thru my other guns...

[mikein1]

You're right, Bitsman, the 22LR or the 22WMR are great choices, and, within their range, they can be quite effective at collecting small game for the pot. And 8-10 well placed rounds of the hollow points can stop a threat from a two-legged predator pretty well, too.

[SteveC]

Flyboy's list looks pretty much exactly like mine. That's the kit taking shape in a large cabinet in the underground cinder block room under my garage. I'm not prepping for zombies 'cause zombies don't exist. And I'm including a crank radio because I'm betting that not every emergency situation will include an emp pulse. Frankly I'm not really worried about a volatile political and economic environment, but hell I'm covered if that comes down. I'm looking more at things like the chance of a level 4 or 5 tornado tearing the hell out of electricity and everything else around here for a while and everyone in my family knows to head for my house because I have food, water, fuel, communications, basic medical supplies, and the weapons to protect them and what they need.

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by xXChromeGhostXx

True, haha thanks Flyboy, also what kind of radios, save for short wave radios , would work during an event like even in a emp strike worse case scenario here, but just curious if any or all radios would be dead at that point.

Actually, you'll need a battery-operated shortwave radio with the batteries kept separate until use. If there's no current running through it at the time of the pulse, it will not be disabled (turning off does not stop the current, this is where many people get confused).
That's also why I keep a skeletonized laptop (an old laptop I stopped using way back but never got rid of) with the battery separate and an old cell phone. The Internet will always be there, and if it's regional (which it most likely will be since outside of sci-fi it can't get much bigger), I can use the cell phone to demodulate surrounding regions' wireless signals into the laptop to access the Internet and find out what's going on.
To be honest though, that's not really a part of my kit per se; I use it for power outages all the time (not often, but when they do, it's usually for a while).

[Fbodtrek]

Intermediate?
5.45X39, it completely destroys flesh in ways the .223 can only dream.
Rifle?
7.62X54
It's just that awesome and inexpensive
For handgun calibers, the 9X18 has me thoroughly impressed. Much more snappy than typical 115gn 9X19, when shooting it, it's like shooting something more substantial at ~10 bucks a box.
My FAVORITE handgun caliber?
.45 winmag. A buddy owns a LAR Grizzly, and that thing is super fun to shoot, makes me feel like Charles Bronson.

My choice of calibers to like makes me feel like a Commie, but Russians certainly know their bullets IMO.

[Flowmaster]

.30-06. use it to hunt any big game on the continent.

9mm. You can get it everywhere, its cheap, and its effective.

22LR because its cheap.

12 gauge because its cheap and everywhere.