[tobkis]

Originally Posted by magnum55

I got an m44. One of my buddy's saw it and wanted one like it. He thought he would try an t53, since it was about $20 less. The metal and bore of his t33 was really good, but the stock looked like the Chinese had used it to work the rice paddies. His shoots as good as mine. If the looks aren't a big deal to you, go with the t53.

You can sand and refinish the T53 stock, they turn out very nice.

[stormin1155]

Originally Posted by magnum55

Has anybody mentioned the SKS. It's a good inexpensive medium range rifle. It's more compact than a Mosin Nagant and semi-auto.

I have both a M44 and a SKS. If I had to grab just one, I'd go for the SKS. The M44s are carbine length and are just bears to shoot. Loudest gun I've ever shot and kicks like a mule.

My first choice would be a good .22. I have a Marlin 60, a model 25 bolt, and Ruger 10/22. They are all good... I'd probably take the 10/22 over the 60.

[MohicanRon]

Originally Posted by stormin1155

I have both a M44 and a SKS. If I had to grab just one, I'd go for the SKS. The M44s are carbine length and are just bears to shoot. Loudest gun I've ever shot and kicks like a mule.

My first choice would be a good .22. I have a Marlin 60, a model 25 bolt, and Ruger 10/22. They are all good... I'd probably take the 10/22 over the 60.

I only have the Marlin 60, but totally agree on your choice of grabbing a .22. I would also grab my Ruger SR22PB.

[FlashBang]

Originally Posted by stormin1155

My first choice would be a good .22. I have a Marlin 60, a model 25 bolt, and Ruger 10/22. They are all good... I'd probably take the 10/22 over the 60.

For rabbit and squirrel hunting I agree, for protection.... I'd take a Mosin M44, M38 or M91/59. Of course any Mosin would do, but a carbine length is easier to maneuver with.

[bandit]

i gave $150 for a remington 788 in .243 gave it to my son he uses it for deer hunting very accurate of course it would be wise to buy extra mags

[blazinbrazer]

don't know if the link will work but i vote for a good .22 and this vid shows why, plus ammo for them is light, plentiful, and dirt cheap.

YouTube

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[bjdault13]

So I know this thread is about long guns .. but I was looking at AIM surplus .. thanks tobkis. I came across a couple of pistols I thought were interesting.

Yugoslavian Tokarev M57 7.62x25 Pistol 199.00
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=627&name=Yugoslavian+Tokarev+ M57+7.62x25+Pistol

Czech CZ-82 9x18 Makarov Pistol 219.00
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=566&name=Czech+CZ-82+9x18+Makarov+Pistol

Any thoughts?

[wc deer hunter]

Originally Posted by bjdault13

So I know this thread is about long guns .. but I was looking at AIM surplus .. thanks tobkis. I came across a couple of pistols I thought were interesting.

Yugoslavian Tokarev M57 7.62x25 Pistol 199.00
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=627&name=Yugoslavian+Tokarev+ M57+7.62x25+Pistol

Czech CZ-82 9x18 Makarov Pistol 219.00
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=566&name=Czech+CZ-82+9x18+Makarov+Pistol

Any thoughts?

The cz-82 is a great choice and ammo is about the same cost as 9mm luger ( 9x19). But in SHTF scenario ammo will be hard to come by as it is not a common caliber.

The Tok is a nice hot round but expensive and very uncommon so even harder to come by ammo.

[vick1000]

Originally Posted by blazinbrazer

don't know if the link will work but i vote for a good .22 and this vid shows why, plus ammo for them is light, plentiful, and dirt cheap.
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Compare those wound channels to a 7.62*54R, or even a 5.56 NATO.

The problem is the lethality is not sudden, it could take several hours for you target to become incapacitated. The 22LR is not a combat round for that very reason, and it also does not feed as reliably as centerfire rounds in most weapons.

But I would absolutely say a good .22 is a very desireable addition to any survival package, just not for defense.

[Ringo]

I might be getting a lever action .30-30 tomorrow. That should be a good defensive/hunting long gun shouldn't it?