Just bought a used but like new HI-Point 45 last night from a friend. Got it for a good price so here I am checking out the forum. Did a search before I bought it and saw lots of good comments on other forums but heard a lot of HI-Point bashing too. Some of them old threads though. My take on the bashing is I went through the same thing when I bought a Henry Lever Gun in 22 mag. Now you seldom hear any Henry bashing because Henry has proved themselves as a good reliable firearm with excellent customer service. I think HI-Point is starting to prove that too with guns that work and they excellent warranty even if your not the first owner.