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Old 05-05-2012, 08:17 PM   #11
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I use 9mm Remington Golden Saber 124gr BJHP for concealed carry. SGammo has it for $12/25. http://www.sgammo.com/product/remington/25-rds-9mm-remington-golden-saber-124gr-bjhp-ammo

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Old 05-06-2012, 05:50 PM   #12
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This is a great carry round! Cheap enough and it will stay inside the first thing of mass it hits.
i've had trouble getting them to expand in anything, out of a pistol. out of a carbine got great results...
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:23 PM   #13
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remington golden saber all the way for me, i have never seen 1 not expand (wet newspaper, dry newspaper, wood, steel etc) in the 147 grain, or the +p 124 grain loadings.

i know that this is poor illustration of what happens in actual soft tisue and bone, but i think its a pretty good indictation that it will expand. to say the least.

but it is a dollar a bullet!!!

Amen brother, these are the rounds i use for a SD, not permit to carry yet, but I have it in my nightstand the C9, but, i've shot the Golden Sabre 147 grain HPJ thru a common household door from trailers too wooden solid doors, i know on a solid door everyone would agree useless, but if someones on the other side of a flimsy common fiberboard door, the bullet shattering shrapnel will mame them and the follow up shots will hit targets. But I also agree, its a rather expensive bullet too practice with on a common basis.
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:43 AM   #14
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I'm starting to think about going every other JHP, FMJ in my XD9sc. My new keltec actualy feeds better on the umc jhp than the fmj's anyway.

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I'm starting to think about going every other JHP, FMJ in my XD9sc. My new keltec actualy feeds better on the umc jhp than the fmj's anyway.
I've hear of many people doing this with home defense shotguns, bird shot, buck shot, slugs etc
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I didn't read all the responses so forgive me if this is redundant.

Most defensive rounds are not designed to penetrate a wall or other types of cover that an attacker might hide behind in your home. They are designed to penetrate some clothing and soft tissue, only.

I load my XDm 9 alternately with Winchester PDX-1 and Federal 124 gr. FMJ for, if in a bad event I had to shoot through cover. Like a bad guy mounting his attack from behind a sheet rock/stud wall or a door/door jamb in my home.

Glad for the 19+1 capacity in the XDm.
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My friend I fully recommend Hornady Critical Defense or Winchester Ranger SXT (blacktalon). They open up like a sawblade. And the Hornady Is my 9mm carry round. I carry the C9. Look up some ballistics videos on them. Its a pretty impressive round.

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Critical Defesne or Gold speer for me

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I used Hornady Z-MAX (zombie ammo) when I shot a guy charging at me with a knife. It did its job and costs a little less then its older brother Critical Defense.

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You can go nuts with all the spectacularly cool, and expensive 9mm personal defense ammo.

I split the difference and use REMINGTION UMC JHP sold at Walmart for about $28 per 100 pack.

I do this so I can actually shoot my carry rounds from time to time without missing the target from crying about cost.

One day I will move up to the big leagues but not there yet.
Same here, I ran 200 rounds through my EDC Ruger P95 with no problems. I do have a second mag loaded with Winchester PDX1 bonded as well, both have functioned well in all 9mm's that I have owned.
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