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Old 10-11-2009, 06:36 PM   #1
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Default 30.06 or 7.62x54

While I'm not an ammo guru..a guy I work with says the 30.06 round is better than the 7.62x54 in every way. (as in it shoots farther and more accurate, more power) I think the 7.62x54 is better. I can't get him to take his rifle out and shoot it against a Mosin of mine. What says you all?

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Old 10-11-2009, 06:59 PM   #2
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With size, powder and velocities being *nearly* identical, I really think this has always been the "Ford Vs. Chevy" arguement. My assertion for the x54r is that it's a common battle round, moreso than the 30.06, although the latter is commercially available in every wally-world/China-mart in the US.

Sure, the 30.06 might have a 100 or so fps on the 7.62x54r, but if I understand right...that's about it! Hardly a thing to claim superiority over when the numbers are that close.

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Default Re: 30.06 or 7.62x54

Hmmm.... If I had a .30-06 rifle I'd shoot it a lot less than I shoot my 7.62x54r rifles. Ammo costs and all, so maybe the 7.62x54r shooter will have a bit more trigger time...

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Old 10-12-2009, 01:46 AM   #4
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Ballistics are close enough the edge will go to the shooter's skill level and rifle quality.

30-06 is a tad "hotter" but i doubt a deer is going to know the difference with a good shot.

SOOO MUCH BETTER is a bit of a stretch but very debatable if you reload.

Ive had the same talk about a 6.5x55 vs modern 6mm-7mm rounds but i still prefer a good little 6.5 carbine even if it is the under dog.

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Default Re: 30.06 or 7.62x54

it really depends on what you are going to do with it. a mosin with 54r is far chaper blasting rifle than a modern commercial 06' however the 06 has much more versatility when it comes to bullet weights, and reloadability. i can load an 06 all the way down to a 100 gr bullet and all the way up to 250 gr. for a hunting rifle the 06 runs cirlces around teh mosin for versatility, for cheap shooting in volume the mosin is the winner. its all about purpose here.

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While I'm not an ammo guru..a guy I work with says the 30.06 round is better than the 7.62x54 in every way. (as in it shoots farther and more accurate, more power) I think the 7.62x54 is better. I can't get him to take his rifle out and shoot it against a Mosin of mine. What says you all?
I agree with AJohn, the 7.62x54 is a better round. I out shot my Dad on his 30.06
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Old 10-12-2009, 04:46 PM   #7
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Default Re: 30.06 or 7.62x54

I'd go with the gun, and the purpose; not the bullet.
A modern 30-06 with a good scope would be a better hunting rifle, in the bean field sort of long/flat shooting.
But a Mosin could do it too, even without a scope. Might require a better shooter, though...
The Garand was relatively superior to the Mosin in WW2, not because of the bullet, but due to the semi auto rate of fire...
My SIL has a SWEET 30-06 Browning lever gun, very nice, far better for hunting than a Mosin if you have to pack it around, or through the brush. Cost about 7 times as much though...
I doubt the cartridge makes any real difference; it is all about the gun, the purpose, and the shooter...


This is as bad as the 9mm vs .45 debate.... :angel:

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I looked at both and after looking at the differences and then the cost of ammo, I had to go with the Mosin M38. With a scope it shoots very well.

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Old 10-13-2009, 03:39 AM   #9
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From the published info i've got the 147gr Nagant ammo will out perform several brands of 150gr 30-06 ammo. I'm thinking the longer barrel of the 91/30 is what makes the difference though.

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i have never owned a 7.62x54, but my old browning a-bolt could put all 4 rounds from its mag into a quarter at a hundred yards. every time!!!

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