How 'bout this for CCW

Discussion in 'Vintage Topic Archive (Sept - 2009)' started by Loopster, Oct 15, 2007.

  1. Loopster

    Loopster Well-Known Member

    Hey guys!

    Look what I just got.
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    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
    FEG PA-63. 9x18mm Makarov. Made in Hungary. military issue. Frame is aluminum/Titanium (sorry PS) alloy.paid $101.00

    Was this a fair price?

    Is this a good gun for SD?

    Tell me about different rounds for this gun. What's the most powerful one out there.

    I know theis thing is somewhere between .380 and 9mm. have looked at gel tests for the 9x18MAK round. It looks like a fair SD round. JHP vs. HP? Anyone know about powerball amoo?

    It looks like plining quality ammo is cheaper for this than for the .380.

    I like it because its small enough to CCW and the grips fit my small hands.

    So, honestly, what'd y'all think. I bumped the Titan .25AUTO out of #2 Gun for this one.



    I want to know what you think.

    It's a
     
  2. Ari

    Ari Guest

    Nice looking
     

  3. PrimalSeal

    PrimalSeal Well-Known Member

    My Makarov will eat any kind of ammo that I feed it. It's a great, reliable round, and the gun feeds like a dream.

    Here is a link that I saved from the old site...


    http://makarov.com/cart/index.html

    Scroll about half way down the page and you'll see a listing for your pistol. Maybe that will be able to give you some information.
     
  4. Loopster

    Loopster Well-Known Member

    Cool. A stuff page. I can ";]My Makarov will eat any kind of ammo that I feed it. It's a great, reliable round, and the gun feeds like a dream.

    Here is a link that I saved from the old site...


    http://makarov.com/cart/index.html

    Scroll about half way down the page and you'll see a listing for your pistol. Maybe that will be able to give you some information.[/quote]

    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".
     
  5. PrimalSeal

    PrimalSeal Well-Known Member

    That just sounded non-hetero.... :shock:
     
  6. bud

    bud Member

    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and tr;]
    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a sl;]My Makarov will eat any kind of ammo that I feed it. It's a great, reliable round, and the gun feeds like a dream.

    Here is a link that I saved from the old site...


    http://makarov.com/cart/index.html

    Scroll about half way down the page and you'll see a listing for your pistol. Maybe that will be able to give you some information.[/quote]

    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and tr;]
    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and tr;]
    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf ;]My Makarov will eat any kind of ammo that I feed it. It's a great, reliable round, and the gun feeds like a dream.

    Here is a link that I saved from the old site...


    http://makarov.com/cart/index.html

    Scroll about half way down the page and you'll see a listing for your pistol. Maybe that will be able to give you some information.[/quote]

    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a sl;]My Makarov will eat any kind of ammo that I feed it. It's a great, reliable round, and the gun feeds like a dream.

    Here is a link that I saved from the old site...


    http://makarov.com/cart/index.html

    Scroll about half way down the page and you'll see a listing for your pistol. Maybe that will be able to give you some information.[/quote]

    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and tr;]
    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and tr;]
    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a sl;]My Makarov will eat any kind of ammo that I feed it. It's a great, reliable round, and the gun feeds like a dream.

    Here is a link that I saved from the old site...


    http://makarov.com/cart/index.html

    Scroll about half way down the page and you'll see a listing for your pistol. Maybe that will be able to give you some information.[/quote]

    Cool. A stuff page. I can "acces;]My Makarov will eat any kind of ammo that I feed it. It's a great, reliable round, and the gun feeds like a dream.

    Here is a link that I saved from the old site...


    http://makarov.com/cart/index.html

    Scroll about half way down the page and you'll see a listing for your pistol. Maybe that will be able to give you some information.[/quote]

    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf ;]My Makarov will eat any kind of ammo that I feed it. It's a great, reliable round, and the gun feeds like a dream.

    Here is a link that I saved from the old site...


    http://makarov.com/cart/index.html

    Scroll about half way down the page and you'll see a listing for your pistol. Maybe that will be able to give you some information.[/quote]

    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a sl;]My Makarov will eat any kind of ammo that I feed it. It's a great, reliable round, and the gun feeds like a dream.

    Here is a link that I saved from the old site...


    http://makarov.com/cart/index.html

    Scroll about half way down the page and you'll see a listing for your pistol. Maybe that will be able to give you some information.[/quote]

    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and tr;]
    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and tr;]
    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a sl;]My Makarov will eat any kind of ammo that I feed it. It's a great, reliable round, and the gun feeds like a dream.

    Here is a link that I saved from the old site...


    http://makarov.com/cart/index.html

    Scroll about half way down the page and you'll see a listing for your pistol. Maybe that will be able to give you some information.[/quote]

    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and tr;]
    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and tr;]
    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf ;]My Makarov will eat any kind of ammo that I feed it. It's a great, reliable round, and the gun feeds like a dream.

    Here is a link that I saved from the old site...


    http://makarov.com/cart/index.html

    Scroll about half way down the page and you'll see a listing for your pistol. Maybe that will be able to give you some information.[/quote]

    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a sl;]My Makarov will eat any kind of ammo that I feed it. It's a great, reliable round, and the gun feeds like a dream.

    Here is a link that I saved from the old site...


    http://makarov.com/cart/index.html

    Scroll about half way down the page and you'll see a listing for your pistol. Maybe that will be able to give you some information.[/quote]

    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and tr;]
    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and tr;]
    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a sl;]My Makarov will eat any kind of ammo that I feed it. It's a great, reliable round, and the gun feeds like a dream.

    Here is a link that I saved from the old site...


    http://makarov.com/cart/index.html

    Scroll about half way down the page and you'll see a listing for your pistol. Maybe that will be able to give you some information.[/quote]

    Cool. A stuff page. I can "acces;]My Makarov will eat any kind of ammo that I feed it. It's a great, reliable round, and the gun feeds like a dream.

    Here is a link that I saved from the old site...


    http://makarov.com/cart/index.html

    Scroll about half way down the page and you'll see a listing for your pistol. Maybe that will be able to give you some information.[/quote]

    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf ;]My Makarov will eat any kind of ammo that I feed it. It's a great, reliable round, and the gun feeds like a dream.

    Here is a link that I saved from the old site...


    http://makarov.com/cart/index.html

    Scroll about half way down the page and you'll see a listing for your pistol. Maybe that will be able to give you some information.[/quote]

    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a sl;]My Makarov will eat any kind of ammo that I feed it. It's a great, reliable round, and the gun feeds like a dream.

    Here is a link that I saved from the old site...


    http://makarov.com/cart/index.html

    Scroll about half way down the page and you'll see a listing for your pistol. Maybe that will be able to give you some information.[/quote]

    Cool. A stuff page. I can "accessorize".[/quote]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and trigger spring.
     
  7. Loopster

    Loopster Well-Known Member

    Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt!. My guns are all female you see. I was speaking in terms of their accessorizing. 8)
     
  8. PrimalSeal

    PrimalSeal Well-Known Member

    And I am sure you DIDN'T say it with a lisp either..... 8) :wink:
     
  9. billybybose

    billybybose Guest

    Hee hee Loopster said a bad word TITANIUM.Heehee :lol:
     
  10. Stryker1

    Stryker1 Well-Known Member

    Very nice pistol!!!
     
  11. unclerob

    unclerob Member

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    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z195/unclerob4/P2280;]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and trigger spring.[/quote]

    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [img]http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z195/unclerob4/P2280012.jpg
     
  12. Loopster

    Loopster Well-Known Member

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do you think its a go;]
    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do ;]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and trigger spring.[/quote]

    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do you think its a go;]
    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do you think its a go;]
    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks li;]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and trigger spring.[/quote]

    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do ;]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and trigger spring.[/quote]

    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do you think its a go;]
    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do you think its a go;]
    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do ;]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and trigger spring.[/quote]

    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z195/unclerob4/P2280012.jpg[/;]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and trigger spring.[/quote]

    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [img]http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z195/unclerob4/P2280012.jpg[/quote]

    Looks li;]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and trigger spring.[/quote]

    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do ;]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and trigger spring.[/quote]

    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do you think its a go;]
    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do you think its a go;]
    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do ;]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and trigger spring.[/quote]

    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do you think its a go;]
    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do you think its a go;]
    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks li;]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and trigger spring.[/quote]

    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do ;]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and trigger spring.[/quote]

    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do you think its a go;]
    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do you think its a go;]
    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do ;]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and trigger spring.[/quote]

    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z195/unclerob4/P2280012.jpg[/;]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and trigger spring.[/quote]

    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [img]http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z195/unclerob4/P2280012.jpg[/quote]

    Looks li;]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and trigger spring.[/quote]

    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do ;]
    Get the wolf spring kit from makarov.com. It's a slide return and trigger spring.[/quote]

    HUGE difference. Much nicer. I know, I did it.

    [​IMG][/quote]

    Looks like exactly the same model. Do you think its a good SD weapon?
     
  13. rchjr

    rchjr Active Member

    Nice handgun. Keep the rounds below 95 grain. the frame can't handle any hotter loads. I'm using Hornady 95 gr XTP, semi jacketed hollowpoints. I also have some silver Bear 95 grain HP, but you have to be careful. Quality control isn't what it should be in russia. It is not a Makarov!! the only simularity is that it takes the 9x18 Mak round. There is plenty of info on this firearm on the Gunboards Makarov forum. I rounded off some of the sharp edges and changed out the springs and it is sweet. It is my daily carry gun. Enjoy!
     
  14. rimfirehunter

    rimfirehunter Well-Known Member

    I prefer shooting Winchester or Federal 95gr FMJ ammo for range shooting and use Hornady 95gr XTP's for my SD ammo. The brass cased US made ammo cost more but its easier on the gun, most steel cased import loads are very hot and put a lot of stress on the fixed barrel Makarov and PA63's.

    The PA63's frame is an alloy, some say Aluminun, so I would avoid using really hot loads with it. Wolf used to import 100gr and 109gr 9x18Mak ammo, this ammo should NEVER be used in an alloy framed PA63. It's like shooting +P+ rated ammo in a non +P rated revolver. It's been a couple years since I have seen the heavy weight Wolf loads, but I am sure some dealers still have a good bit stashed here and there, so keep an eye out when you buy. 90gr and 95gr loads are ok to shoot in the PA63.

    Only bad thing about the PA63 is they generally have a real heavy double action trigger pull. It gets better with time, and the more you shoot the more you get used to it. http://www.makarov.com used to sell a Wolf spring kit that would lighten the DA pull weight considerablly, but not sure if they still offer it now. Been a while since I visited their site. Spare mags should also be available via Makarov.com at decent prices.

    You did good on the price. Last few I have came across in shops have been tagged $199!!!! This is why I dont own a PA63 YET!

    rimfirehunter
     
  15. unclerob

    unclerob Member

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    Yep Loopster, Same pistol. FEG PA-63. I paid a couple dollars less than you did but I think you got a good deal.

    Mine looks brand new and came with 2 mags with matching serial#s.

    Have you shot it yet. Mine was a handful! The springs tamed it down nicely.

    I have had zero problems with it before or after the spring mod.

    As far as a SD gun, only you will be able to judge after you shoot it and see how it behaves and how comfortable you feel with it.

    Myself, CCW = S&W 642.
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  16. PrimalSeal

    PrimalSeal Well-Known Member

    Sorry unclerob... but I HATE a hammerless revolver... they just look.... unfinished... :shock:
     
  17. unclerob

    unclerob Member

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    $99.95

    http://www.jgsales.com/product_info...-excellent-even-lower-price!/products_id/1258
     
  18. unclerob

    unclerob Member

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    Hate!!! ':shock:'
    It's built for SPEED not LOVE ;)

    Hammerless ?? What kind of magic is making the bang;]Sorry unclerob... but I HATE a hammerless revolver... they just look.... unfinished... :shock:[/quote]

    Hate!!! ':shock:'
    It's built for SPEED not LOVE ;)

    Hammerless ?? What kind of magic is making the bang switch work?
     
  19. Deadeye008

    Deadeye008 Active Member

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    I gotta get me a PA-63 while they're on the cheap...
     
  20. Ari

    Ari Guest

    I too thought the hammerless looked out of place my wifes new one has grown on me... I dont mind it now..