Jack Weaver Didn't Invent the Weaver Stance

By lklawson, Sep 18, 2017 | | |
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    Jack Weaver Didn't Invent the Weaver Stance
    by Kirk Lawson

    OK, despite what the "best" understanding of history is, including what I believed, it looks like Jack Weaver didn't invent the stance which now bears his name and which he is widely credited for.

    Just like what we now call the Isosceles Stance well predates "The Modern Technique," it now looks like someone other than Jack Weaver did it first. In fact, a very famous someone.

    J.H. Fitzgerald.

    Fitzgerald, more commonly known as "Fitz," was famous for his "Fitz Special" police and self defense modded Colt revolvers. One appears in the WWII Point Shooting Classic "Shooting to Live." Fitzgerald's customizations included slicked trigger, bobbed hammer, and cut a trigger guard. He is a legend among custom Colt revolver gunsmiths.

    But more than that, he wrote a book in 1930, "Shooting." In a short section on "Two-Handed Shooting," he details a two-handed method for shooting when you are having trouble holding the revolver steady, such as after running. The hand grip is the modern revolver two-hand (not the teacup or anything else), and the foot position and arm/shoulder position is left-side advanced classic modified-weaver/Chapman.

    He even has a photo.

    While there's a solid chance of Parallel Evolution, there's also a better than even chance that Weaver saw Fitz' book or received instruction at some point by someone in Fitz's lineage. "Shooting" predates Weaver's Leatherslap wins by a good two decades or so.

    Two Handed Shooting
    The following information on two handed shooting shooting comes from Section 50 of Shooting by J. Henry FitzGerald.

    After running a short distance the officer may find as he stops to shoot that he is trembling badly and cannot take steady aim. In that case place the hand holding the revolver firmly in the palm of the other hand, the first finger of the outside hand to be just under the trigger guard and the thumb over the thumb of the hand holding the revolver. Use pressure enough to steady the revolver and if inside of fifteen yards use double action; if at a longer range and time permits cock the hammer with the thumb of the outside hand and shoot single action. Very accurate shooting may be done in this manner and the officer will find that he can shoot faster and with more accuracy after a run if the arm is held in this manner.


    In this shooting if the revolver is held in the right hand and both placed in the left, the left foot should be placed ahead of the right and slightly to the left or nearly the position of the feet for left-hand shooting. If arm is held first in the left hand the position would be reversed and right foot would be ahead of the left. A little practice using both hands will convince the officer of the value of two handed shooting.​


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