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The Latest on a shooting at a Florida high school (all times local):

4:25 p.m.

A school official says there are numerous fatalities from the high school shooting in South Florida.

Broward County Superintendent Robert Runcie says "There are numerous fatalities. It is a horrific situation." He added, "It is a horrible day for us."

The Broward County Sheriff's Office tweeted Wednesday afternoon that "so far we have at least 14 victims." The tweet added: "Victims have been and continue to be transported to Broward Health Medical Center and Broward Health North hospital."

The sheriff's statement didn't elaborate on the victims or their injuries.
 
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Probably bought the AR15 legally. Broward County has a 3-day "cooling off" period, unless you have a Concealed Carry permit. Miami-Dade & Palm Beach Counties have the same laws. There is no open carry & the shooter carried it openly onto the school campus. Background check is required for all, even CC permit holders.

He would be scheduled a visit to "Old Sparky", if it weren't for the Supreme Court who pressured the legislature for lethal injection. The condemned can request the use of Sparky.
 
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Guy is hispanic(last name is Cruz) 18 or 19 years old, history of threats at the school... history of mental issues... and he was reading islamic crap on instagram(maybe, that is not confirmed)

So another nutcase who should have been reported to the NICS database fell through the cracks...
 
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So another nutcase who should have been reported to the NICS database fell through the cracks...
By who for what? And based on what?
Being a goofy troubled teen? Like 90% of them?
And if it's that important that Cruz is "Hispanic" I have another Cruz for you, but he was Canadian.

As far as a "Syrian sympathizer"

Douglas High has a place students call "the Emo Gazebo," he said. "That's where all the kids that are considered weird or not accepted sat. Kids at the Emo Gazebo didn't even accept him there. He was just an outcast...He didn't have any friends."

Cruz always had his hair short and had a penchant for wearing patriotic shirts that "seemed really extreme, like hating on" Islam, Parodie said. The suspected gunman would also deride Muslims as "terrorists and bombers."

"I've seen him wear a Trump hat," the student said.

Another student told WFOR-TV that Cruz "always had guns on him."

"He was off," Giovanni Watford, 17, told BuzzFeed News. "He was super stressed-out all the time and talked about guns a lot and tried to hide his face."

Watford told the site he had been in the same Junior ROTC program as Cruz and that Cruz would complain about bullying at Douglas High.

Broward County Sheriff Steve Israel told reporters the suspect was a former student of the school who was expelled for "disciplinary reasons." Math teacher Jim Gard told the Miami Herald that Cruz was identified as a threat to the school in previous years.

"We were told last year that he wasn't allowed on campus with a backpack on him," Gard said. "There were problems with him last year threatening students, and I guess he was asked to leave campus."

Helen Pasciolla, a former neighbor of Cruz, told The New York Times that he had told her his family had been forced to sell their house in the upscale neighborhood because of money problems. She also told the paper both Cruz and his brother were adopted and their adoptive father had died.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nick-cruz-parkland-florida-shooting-stoneman-douglas-high-school
 
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View attachment 44356 This is susposedly him
Not him. It was however on Cruz's instagram page.

Two times in Florida the FBI has investigated two future mass killers. They failed. It might be time to get some fucking names. Investigate, fire and charge some people for not doing their job.

CNN is reporting he was being treated at a mental health clinic. Before or after he got the AR? I'm not sure.
 
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Might be too early to call him a Anti-Fa, whack job Syrian sympathizer? If he is it will probably get buried quick. My question is what psychotropic drugs was he on?

 
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He was on a blog a day or two before this happened. Told the people on that blog he was going to be a school shooter. The owner of the blog notified the FBI. Nothing happened.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...oblems-bought-ar-15-legally-article-1.3821950

"YouTube vlogger from Mississippi, Ben Bennight, also said early Thursday that he had reported a comment from Cruz where he said that he wanted to be "a professional school shooter" to the FBI back in September.

The FBI spoke to him at the time and again after the shooting, though it was not clear if a serious investigation was conducted in the interim.

Language arts teacher Melissa Falkowski, who hid in a closets with her students during the attack, said that the "government has failed us and failed our kids" by repeatedly doing nothing in the face of mass shootings."

As for him wearing the MAGA hat? They are showing pics. Whoever is in the pic is wearing a mask? Unidentifiable.
 
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https://thehornnews.com/fbi-ignored-warnings-school-shootings/

The suspect in the deadly rampage at a Florida high school is a troubled teenager that was open about his intention to kill students.

Nikolas Cruz allegedly left threatening messages online about his intentions to become a school shooter that were reported to the FBI - but little was done to prevent Wednesday's tragedy.

That's according to Buzzfeed, which reported that Cruz's alleged threat - left on a YouTube vlogger Ben Bennight's channel on Sept. 25 - was reported to the FBI that same day. Agents in the Mississippi field office got back to Bennight "immediately" and talked to him in person.

That warning seemed to slip through the cracks at the FBI.

"They came to my office the next morning and asked me if I knew anything about the person," Bennight said, as reported by BuzzFeed. "I didn't. They took a copy of the screenshot and that was the last I heard from them."

According to Fox News, Cruz was obsessed with guns and violence. He reportedly followed multiple social media accounts of anti-Trump "resistance" groups and watched videos from numerous Syrian militia organizations.

On social media, Cruz was "following resistance groups, like Syrian Resistance groups and fighter groups out of Iraq and, we should also note that a couple days ago, as far as a week ago, that he was involved in a Youtube chat room conversation about bombs or building bombs," Fox News reporter Trace Gallagher said.

The Associated Press reported that Cruz had been expelled from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School for "disciplinary reasons," Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel said, but he insisted he didn't know the specifics.

Math teacher Jim Gard told The Miami Herald that before Wednesday's fatal shooting of 17 people, Cruz may have been identified as a potential threat - Gard believes the school had sent out an email warning teachers that Cruz shouldn't be allowed on campus with a backpack.

"There were problems with him last year threatening students, and I guess he was asked to leave campus," Gard told the paper.

Student Victoria Olivera, 17, said Cruz had been abusive to his ex-girlfriend and that his expulsion was over a fight with her new boyfriend. He'd been attending another school in Broward County since the expulsion, school officials said.

Cruz was an orphan - his mother, Lynda Cruz died of pneumonia on Nov. 1 neighbors, friends and family members said, according to The Sun Sentinel. Cruz and her husband, who died of a heart attack several years ago, adopted Nikolas and his biological brother, Zachary, after the couple moved from Long Island in New York to Broward County.

The boys were left in the care of a family friend after their mother died, family member Barbara Kumbatovich, of Long Island, said.

Unhappy there, Nikolas Cruz asked to move in with a friend's family in northwest Broward. The family agreed, and Cruz moved in around Thanksgiving.

According to lawyer Jim Lewis, who represents but did not identify the family, they knew that Cruz owned the AR-15 but made him keep it locked up in a cabinet and never saw him go to a shooting range with it. He did have the key, however.

Cruz legally purchased the assault weapon about a year ago, a law enforcement official familiar with the investigation but not authorized to discuss it publicly told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

The family is devastated and shocked, lawyer Lewis said. During the three months Cruz lived there, he was respectful and quiet but also sad over his mother's death, Lewis said.

"No indication that anything severe like this was wrong," Lewis said. "Just a mildly troubled kid who'd lost his mom. … He totally kept this from everybody."

The family's son was a junior at the school and was there when the shooting happened, Lewis said. The family is cooperating as their home is searched and no one there is suspected of wrongdoing, he added.

Longtime Cruz family neighbors Malcolm and Christine Roxburgh told The Sun Sentinel that the police came to the boy's house many times, as he used to get in trouble and harass people. Malcolm Roxburgh said a neighbor across the street kept pigs, and Nicolas Cruz targeted the family.

"He didn't like the pigs and didn't like the neighbors, so he sent over his dog over there to try to attack them," Roxburgh said.

His wife said she once caught Nikolas peeking in her window.

"I said, 'What are you doing here?' He said he was looking for golf balls. I said, 'This isn't the golf course,'" she said.

And, the couple said, when the boy didn't want to go to school, he would bang his head against a cement wall. They were scared of him. "He could have killed any of us," Christine Roxburgh said.

Cruz was getting treatment at a mental health clinic for a while, but hadn't been there for more than a year, Broward County Mayor Beam Furr said during an interview with CNN.

"It wasn't like there wasn't concern for him," Furr said. "We try to keep our eyes out on those kids who aren't connected … Most teachers try to steer them toward some kind of connections. … In this case, we didn't find a way to connect with this kid."

Officials said they're dissecting the suspect's disturbing social media posts, without elaboration. But peers said they recognized Cruz from an Instagram photo posing with a gun in front of his face. The students called Cruz "weird" and a "loner" - even those who'd been friendly with him said they hadn't seen him in more than a year since his expulsion.

Dakota Mutchler, 17, recalled Cruz posting on Instagram about killing animals and said he had talked about doing target practice in his backyard with a pellet gun.

"He started going after one of my friends, threatening her, and I cut him off from there," Mutchler said.

He said students weren't surprised officials had identified Cruz as the shooter: "I think everyone had in their minds if anybody was going to do it, it was going to be him." Mutchler said.

But Broward County School District Superintendent Robert Runcie said he did not know of any threats posed by Cruz to the school.

"Typically you see in these situations that there potentially could have been signs out there," Runcie said. "I would be speculating at this point if there were, but we didn't have any warnings. There weren't any phone calls or threats that we know of that were made."

On Thursday morning, Cruz was charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder after being questioned for hours by state and federal authorities. Weighing in at 5-foot-7 and 131 pounds and wearing a hospital gown after being treated for labored breathing, he was ordered held without bond and booked into jail.
 
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Being an angry lonely teen and losing the last person that ‘cares’ about you...all the holes in the cheese started lining up.
Shows you the whole nurture vs nature and how random something like this can be.
Any of the ingredients missing and it would not have happened.
 
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I feel like as much as the American people want to know and have a right to know the details of the people who do these mass shootings, they need to stop plastering their name/face over everything. Maybe these shootings wouldn't happen as much if these people didn't think they were going to be famous. Infamous. Whatever. They're screwed up in the head and decide they're going to do something big and bad and go out with a bang, and no one will ever forget who they are.
 
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I think it’s inportant to show the picture. We all have a right to know who perpetrated such a heinous crime.
It’s also important to understand these people don’t “look evil”.
They look like you and me or like your kids.
We, as a population or a community should learn as much as we can about these types of shootings and the shooters. The Who, the Why...
This kid was sliding down the slippery slope for the last couple of years and nobody caught it.
Sandy Hook was different as that shooter was pretty much a isolated basement dweller with an enabler caring for him.
Cruz has had some mental care or counseling but that had been dropped at some point.
Why?
 
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When the SSRi's quit working this is often the results. Big possibility he was still on them and not really under a doctor"s supervision. MD's frequently do that.
 
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The suspect is 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz, a former student was charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder on Thursday after authorities questioned him for hours.

Cruz allegedly set off fire alarms at the school about 10 minutes before dismissal time, and then opened fire as students and faculty filed into common areas, thinking it was a drill.

Police arrested Cruz without incident after the shooting about a mile away from the scene.

The alleged shooter Cruz, who was orphaned late last year when his mother died from the flu, was expelled from the school in 2017 for disciplinary reasons. He was abusive towards his ex-girlfriend and fought with her new boyfriend.

He allegedly used an AR-15-style weapon to shoot adults and students at the school and was found with several magazines on him.

Twelve of the victims were shot inside the building, two were shot outside and one was killed on the road next to the school, Israel said.

Authorities identified Cruz after watching school security video. He was arrested in a nearby neighborhood in Coral Springs, FL.

At the time of his arrest, Cruz exhibited labored breathing and was taken to a hospital as a precaution.

Runcie said the suspect was enrolled at a school in the school system at the time of the shooting.

Last year his classmates voted him "most likely to shoot up a school" ........he'd been on a watch list, but no one followed up.............

 
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While this is a sad senseless shooting it more than likely could of been avoided if the kid had just one friend. I'm not giving him a pass by any means. But I've seen tragedy avoided time and again by a friend just being there for a buddy. To late to arm chair it. He fucked up and will pay for it. So will those poor victims and their families.
 
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Not giving him a pass either but being upset with the new boyfriend of your ex...that's pretty normal.
But kick in the teeth after kick in the teeth for somebody who is already unstable.
Like I said earlier, everything lined up.

Just an observation but that looks like a fake gun by the way.
 
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Last year his classmates voted him "most likely to shoot up a school" .........and he was prohibited from coming on campus with a backpack apparently due to prior threats - yet there doesn't seem to have been any follow up...
 
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PARKLAND, Florida-Nikolas Cruz, the man accused of killing 17 people in a Florida high school, was a member of a "white separatist paramilitary proto-fascist organization," a leader of the group told The Daily Beast.

Cruz, 19, is accused of opening fire inside Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida. Jordan Jereb, a captain of the Republic of Florida, said Cruz trained with the group (as first reported by the Anti-Defamation League).
https://www.thedailybeast.com/nikolas-cruz-trained-with-florida-white-supremacist-group-leader-says
 
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Reading about him, his background and how everyone talked about him, it kind of reminded me of the old saying; 'There, but for the grace of God, go I'.

I know, or have known several people who very closely match his story, but did not go off the rails. Perhaps if he had just one of the breaks that so many of us have gotten, this wouldn't have ended so badly.
 
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