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HI! JHP Pistol, 4595 Carbine, Break-In, Defensive Ammo, etc

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Hi, I'm new to the forum. I'm not new to firearms and ammunition. Since the post is relevant specifics of ammunition for pistols and carbines, I put it here in General to avoid running basically the same post in a pistol form and in a carbine forum.

What are your experiential findings (positive and negative) over time on performance and usability of various brands / weights of Jacketed Hollow Point ammo in the Hi-Point JHP .45 ACP pistol and the 4595TS .45 ACP carbine using Hi-Point factory magazines and/or RedBall magazines only?

I have edited this post in cognizance of the notion that some people may feel that this forum is not a good place for the exchange of information at a technical or detailed degree.
 
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Hi, I'm new to the forum. I have put together a carefully constructed post. It's lengthy, but it covers a lot of ground and info in the hopes of ...
Yea. Just so you know most of us gave up right around here. There's a few really bored people who will read it and a couple teachers here that will be happy to look over your report and possibly grade it for you, but for your best chance of results you really need to get right to the point. Gun nuts have very short attention spans. Probably explains the need to acquire large arsenals.

Oh, without reading your post I'll bet $5 that everything in it has been covered several times here and could be found by searching. Just a hunch.
 
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You are right as usual, I went to the last paragraph. Here it is>

What are your experiential findings (positive and negative) over time on performance and usability of various brands / weights of Jacketed Hollow Point ammo in the Hi-Point JHP .45 ACP pistol and the 4595TS .45 ACP carbine?
 
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Hi, I'm new to the forum. Since the post is relevant specifics of ammunition for pistols and carbines, I put it here in General to avoid running basically the same post in a pistol form and in a carbine forum.

What are your experiential findings (positive and negative) over time on performance and usability of various brands / weights of Jacketed Hollow Point ammo in the Hi-Point JHP .45 ACP pistol and the 4595TS .45 ACP carbine using Hi-Point factory magazines and/or RedBall magazines only?

I have edited this post in cognizance of the notion that some people may feel that this forum is not a good place for the exchange of information at a technical or detailed degree.
We actually have a caliber section just for discussing ammunition and the search bar at the top does work.

The long and short of it is, shoot a box of everything and pick the ammo your carbine likes best. Everyone's results will vary because the individual shooter is the biggest variable.
 
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I did use the search bar. Aggressively. For two or three hours. Used several different search arguments. I still didn't find any cohesive info, so I asked the question.

Trying to shoot a box of everything right now is not a viable option, since you can't find most of the ammo that I'd be looking for, and what I can find is well over $1 per round and more.
 
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Hi Oliver.
.45 JHP owner from Florida here.
I shoot the cheapest ammo I can find which is usually Tula steel case FMJ.
The JHP tends to be the least troublesome as far as mags are concerned although I’ve had one problem mag.
If you run into issues after you’ve had a double feed it’s because your firing pin is bent. It doubles as ejector in the HP design.
Extractor pulls it back and it bounce off the the exposed firing pin.
Exercise caution when ejecting live rounds because of this.
It’s rare but an out of battery detonation is not out of the question with this design.
Pull the slide back and let the round drop out.
I’ve bought my JHP used for $100 from an pawnshop and have put about 2000 rounds through it now.
Just replaced the plastic guide rod with a steel one as it has mushroomed some.
HiPoint will send you free firing pins and spring kits if you need them.
As far as JHP, I’ve shot reman ammo and everything else.
I keep one mag with mystery brand JHP’s and all 4 follow up mags are Tula FMJ.
 
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The JHP tends to be the least troublesome as far as mags are concerned although I've had one problem mag.

Are you referencing the JHP pistol or Jacket Hollow Point ammo?

As far as JHP, I've shot reman ammo and everything else.
I keep one mag with mystery brand JHP's and all 4 follow up mags are Tula FMJ.
Is that a reference to hollow point or the pistol?

I don't shoot Tula or any steel case ammo, because the firing ranges around Houston do not allow steel case on their ranges.


I don't shoot FMJ for defensive ammo.
 
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Hi, I'm new to the forum. Since the post is relevant specifics of ammunition for pistols and carbines, I put it here in General to avoid running basically the same post in a pistol form and in a carbine forum.

What are your experiential findings (positive and negative) over time on performance and usability of various brands / weights of Jacketed Hollow Point ammo in the Hi-Point JHP .45 ACP pistol and the 4595TS .45 ACP carbine using Hi-Point factory magazines and/or RedBall magazines only?

I have edited this post in cognizance of the notion that some people may feel that this forum is not a good place for the exchange of information at a technical or detailed degree.
I have the C9 and CF380, and they both seem to be able to run pretty much all the JHP ammo I have tried in them.
 
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The .45’s of either type, carbine or pistol, seem to run everything and anything. FMJ, JHP self defense, lead plinking ammo, whatever. They even ran the first ever .45 ACP reloads I did back in the day that my 1911 would stick on.

As they’ve said above, with ammo being crazy, I’d say buy the cheapest you can find and run with it. Really good chance it will just work, whatever it is.

As to accuracy, that will always come down to you and the load your gun likes. Not everyone else’s results will match yours, though they might make a good starting point.
 
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No, your first post was a diatribe on how superior you felt to everyone along with how nobody should comment if they only owned a 9mm or a .40S&W.

You could stand to learn a little bit of nettiquette. I'll clue you in on how this place works just in case you decided to take the stick out of your butt and hang around.

1. We don't care about your credentials. Bragging about them tends to get you bullied.

2. The more you demand narrow band answers, the wider and wilder the answers will get.

3. Editing your posts to hide stuff is the fastest way to get abused. Makes you seem disingenuous.

4. The broad answers you're getting about, "buy a bunch of stuff and shoot what your gun likes?" Yeah, that's the number 1 best answer to your question.

5. Your seemingly smug attitude about how you don't want to hear about the magazines because you'll just keep returning them until you get good ones? Get over yourself. 30 seconds with a pair of needle nose pliers and some sand paper vs 4 - 6 weeks of wait time? Plus HP prefers it if you send the firearms in with the faulty mags so they can test fire and tweak them for you...

You can be offended all you want but you went day one dumb on guys with about 100+ years of collective experience, because you read about it or youtubed it instead. Due diligence is one thing, rollin' in on your high horse like your shit don't stink and talking down to people like they're peasants is another.
 
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I didn't come here to feel superior to anyone. I came here as a Hi-point owner to converse with other Hi-Point owners.

As for "nettiquette", I have been engaged in forums and groups as member and admin for over two decades, but I'm not citing that as a "credential". I merely mention it as part of my learning experience.

I don't consider myself to be "credentialed".

I edited the post as an act of compliance in simplification -- not to "hide" stuff.

I mentioned that I had returned some Ruger mags once. I also mentioned that ProMag currently didn't have a good record overall, and that I had already experienced some issues with Promag. I noted that I had never had to tweak mags on any other firearms. I fail to see how that is being smug or superior. If I spend my very limited income on something, I want it to work right. That's all.

A lot of my post was framed in consideration of what I had found (or been unable to find) on this very forum.

I try very hard to maintain clear communication.

buy a bunch of stuff and shoot what your gun likes
Out of curiosity, if one of the forum members had put 1,000 rounds of XXX brand of xxgr. jacketed hollow points through his JHP pistol with no hiccups, wouldn't that be valuable information to me? Or, is there enough variance in the JHP pistols that it would be invalid information and I'd have to start from scratch?

It's things like that that I'm trying to learn relative to Hi-Point firearms. I never had any desire or intention for it to go outside those bounds. I look for not only the "what", but the "why".

I didn't come here to look down on people or feel better than anyone. I'm just some guy that has spent a lot of enjoyable time on forums over the past couple of decades. Even got to meet a lot of the people in person around the country. Many of them are now friends of mine. I always considered things like that to be a positive addition to my life. People and the exchange of ideas and information . . .
 
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I have edited this post in cognizance of the notion that some people may feel that this forum is not a good place for the exchange of information at a technical or detailed degree.
Just on reloading formulas. The rest is wideassed open for discussion.

Do not watch youtube hi-point videos as there is a lot of gooberbubbas that can screw up your guns.

Don't polish the ramp, change the "trigger" spring which is actually the sear spring. Of great knowledge here.
 
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He already polished the ramp and sear surfaces. That was covered in his now self-gutted first post. Along with how it's his gun and you can't tell him what to do or not to do with it...
 
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The JHP45, and 4595's will pretty much feed mudballs. I never found a JHP either one of them won't eat. Never had a jam. Steel, aluminum, brass etc.

The Hornady XTP is GTG in about any gun due to the profile on the nose of the round is well designed for feeding.

Supply is at scary low reserves right now. YMMV. I wouldn't blow a bunch of ammo at your range sessions until you've amassed a decent supply.
 
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So he is another expert. Then why ask a these questions. And if he is legit why edit.

Try to give a MF chance and people wonder why we bust on the new guys.
 
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TOO LEGIT TO EDIT!!!

We'll need to keep that as a battle cry somehow.
 
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