[Woody56arizona]

Have a brand new 10mm that fired one full magazine of standard factory ammo and has not loaded a magazine since. Will not load first round weather fully loaded, half or 2 rounds. Tried 4 different mags 5 different ammos types??? Have tried all the suggestions everyone else uses, file the feed lips, bend the feed lips, let magazines sit loaded etc etc. When the round stops in the chamber the nose is up and it has hit a brick wall. Hitting the charge handle doesnt budge it, pulling the charge handle back slightly and recharging the round doesnt do it. You now have to drop the mag pull the handle to drop the round through the mag well. Frustrating!! I can insert a round manually in the chamber, insert an empty mag and the round fires with a full lock back as it should. Try a manual insert with a loaded magazine and guess what, you got it, another jam. You can't shoot this carbine using magazines. What is the deal with Hi-Piont and their loading issues. I diassembled the carbine with an idea to inspect the feed ramp and maybe polish that dude. I'm open to other suggestions

 

[RACHGIER]

Well since you decided not to stick with your original post 10 days ago complaining about the exact same things, I went ahead and deleted it.

Welcome to the asylum (again). Please familiarize yourself with our rules.

I won't bother repeating all of the fixes or the request for pictures of the loaded mags and FTL I made in the first post, and I'll let somebody else help you instead.

 

[Delbert]

We need a few more facts to help. What ammo(s) are you using? Steel case, brass.

Reloads are another story, and I do see you used factory ammo, but there's many different types that need to be known if they will work as some won't.

What bullets does that ammo use? FMJRN(full metal jacket round nose), FMJFN(full metal jacket-flat nose), lead round nose, HP(hollow point), defense rounds, fragmentation round. All guns are different and some just don't like a certain ammo or type, so that needs to be ruled out if you are trying different types when problem(s) occured.

I don't have the 10mm, but I do own a 40S&W which is the small brother of the 10mm. The magazines have been found to be the biggest problem. Some tweaking of the feed lips are needed many times to fix. There's some Utube videos out there to look at.

If rounds are getting hung up on the feed ramp, I'll suggest a couple ideas. You need to use (gun) grease to see if it'll help on the ramp. One reason the gun worked at first was possibly the factory grease helped with shooting those first 10rds and now everything is dry and ammo hangs up. A bit of gun oil on that loaded magazine won't hurt either.

Now, I don't know if you first cleaned the gun, or if right out of box you decided to load up and shoot, so we need to rule one way or another as to what you did when you first shot it.

Another possible is to call MOM and speak to one of the tech's to help lead you through problems you're having, if any of our suggestions don't work to satisfaction and might require a send back to manufacturer to fix.

 

[Woody56arizona]

We need a few more facts to help. What ammo(s) are you using? Steel case, brass.

Reloads are another story, and I do see you used factory ammo, but there's many different types that need to be known if they will work as some won't.

What bullets does that ammo use? FMJRN(full metal jacket round nose), FMJFN(full metal jacket-flat nose), lead round nose, HP(hollow point), defense rounds, fragmentation round. All guns are different and some just don't like a certain ammo or type, so that needs to be ruled out if you are trying different types when problem(s) occured.

I don't have the 10mm, but I do own a 40S&W which is the small brother of the 10mm. The magazines have been found to be the biggest problem. Some tweaking of the feed lips are needed many times to fix. There's some Utube videos out there to look at.

If rounds are getting hung up on the feed ramp, I'll suggest a couple ideas. You need to use (gun) grease to see if it'll help on the ramp. One reason the gun worked at first was possibly the factory grease helped with shooting those first 10rds and now everything is dry and ammo hangs up. A bit of gun oil on that loaded magazine won't hurt either.

Now, I don't know if you first cleaned the gun, or if right out of box you decided to load up and shoot, so we need to rule one way or another as to what you did when you first shot it.

Another possible is to call MOM and speak to one of the tech's to help lead you through problems you're having, if any of our suggestions don't work to satisfaction and might require a send back to manufacturer to fix.

Thanks for your interest. Have used all factory loaded ammo, FMJ round nose, flat nose, self defense NO lead same exact result with all. Used oil & grease on ramps and have already lightly sanded feed lips, bent lips etc. Same prob. Decided to disassemble to inspect and polish feed ramp and found a major burr on upper side of ramp I mean a nasty one. I'm suprised the brass did not show signs. Will try to attach photos. Sending in to Hi Point for service, wish me luck.

 

[Delbert]

Thanks for your interest. Have used all factory loaded ammo, FMJ round nose, flat nose, self defense NO lead same exact result with all. Used oil & grease on ramps and have already lightly sanded feed lips, bent lips etc. Same prob. Decided to disassemble to inspect and polish feed ramp and found a major burr on upper side of ramp I mean a nasty one. I'm suprised the brass did not show signs. Will try to attach photos. Sending in to Hi Point for service, wish me luck.

You don't need any luck, HP once they know what the problem is will fix it right up and will shoot as it should. Just give detailed description of problem(s) on paper, to ship with carbine and they'll get it going, clean, test out, reoil (at least they should) and send back a spare magazine for your troubles. So, do not send in your magazine, unless you also suspect it of causing some problems also.

 

[RACHGIER]

You don't need any luck, HP once they know what the problem is will fix it right up and will shoot as it should. Just give detailed description of problem(s) on paper, to ship with carbine and they'll get it going, clean, test out, reoil (at least they should) and send back a spare magazine for your troubles. So, do not send in your magazine, unless you also suspect it of causing some problems also.

ALWAYS send in ALL of your mags. It's right in their instructions on shipping things back for warranty work, and the free mag for your trouble thing isn't a guarantee anymore now...

They run and tune your mags to make sure they're not the issue. Why wouldn't you send them in?

 

[Delbert]

ALWAYS send in ALL of your mags. It's right in their instructions on shipping things back for warranty work, and the free mag for your trouble thing isn't a guarantee anymore now...

They run and tune your mags to make sure they're not the issue. Why wouldn't you send them in?

Because I don't believe the magazines to be the issue, BUT I did say in my statement "unless you also suspect it of causing some problems also", meaning the magazine(s). One, maybe two magazines I can see, being a problem of needing some easy adjustments to fix, but not 4. The odds just aren't there that all the mags are at fault for what's happening in this instance.

And, OP tried everything we speak of in making new magazines work, but the bolt or ramp is keeping the rounds from inserting correctly into chamber due to a problem we haven't dealt with on the 10mm which is a model that's still new and not commonly in everyone's hands like the other models which have been around for many years -- not counting the 380TS either.

However, if HP does require that all magazines(factory) be sent with the gun, then so be it.

Didn't know that HP doesn't send out free magazines for one's troubles anymore. When did this start? I've not once needed to send in any of my HP's to have fixed.

 

[Woody56arizona]

You don't need any luck, HP once they know what the problem is will fix it right up and will shoot as it should. Just give detailed description of problem(s) on paper, to ship with carbine and they'll get it going, clean, test out, reoil (at least they should) and send back a spare magazine for your troubles. So, do not send in your magazine, unless you also suspect it of causing some problems also.

Thanks for your help Delbert, appreciate it.

Because I don't believe the magazines to be the issue, BUT I did say in my statement "unless you also suspect it of causing some problems also", meaning the magazine(s). One, maybe two magazines I can see, being a problem of needing some easy adjustments to fix, but not 4. The odds just aren't there that all the mags are at fault for what's happening in this instance.

And, OP tried everything we speak of in making new magazines work, but the bolt or ramp is keeping the rounds from inserting correctly into chamber due to a problem we haven't dealt with on the 10mm which is a model that's still new and not commonly in everyone's hands like the other models which have been around for many years -- not counting the 380TS either.

However, if HP does require that all magazines(factory) be sent with the gun, then so be it.

Didn't know that HP doesn't send out free magazines for one's troubles anymore. When did this start? I've not once needed to send in any of my HP's to have fixed.

Hey Delbert, Spoke to HP today, very nice and willing/interested to see what is going on with the 10mm. Shipping back to them in am, they do not require magazines unless I WANT to send them and no more than 2 so your other friend there is wrong. I'm sure they can straighten the issue out and I'll keep you posted thank you.

 

[RACHGIER]

Thanks for your help Delbert, appreciate it.Hey Delbert, Spoke to HP today, very nice and willing/interested to see what is going on with the 10mm. Shipping back to them in am, they do not require magazines unless I WANT to send them and no more than 2 so your other friend there is wrong. I'm sure they can straighten the issue out and I'll keep you posted thank you.

Sorry bud, hate to point out what their own website says... but...

See that highlighted paragraph? It says ALL. And when my 4095 went in for work, they wanted all 15 magazines and replaced the springs, followers, and spacers in all of my old green follower magazines...

Guess what I didn't get in return @Delbert ? A new magazine, not like I need any more, and when I asked about it they said more they only ship a magazine back with the firearms that come in without them.

But okay, let's ignore personal experience and go with the guy who's never sent one back...

Because guess what? Your HP magazines are all covered under the warranty as well so you might as well send them all in and request they go over them for free so you don't have to...

Edit: For the record, I've sent in at least a dozen or so HP's over the years for various clients and friends.

 

[Woody56arizona]

Well, its a carbine not a pistol, its a 10mm not a 40 and its the HP factory gunsmith giving instructions on how he wants it done not based on your experience. Why not adjust your attitute and learn something.

 

[ajole]

Holy crap………

 

[RACHGIER]

Well, its a carbine not a pistol, its a 10mm not a 40 and its the HP factory gunsmith giving instructions on how he wants it done not based on your experience. Why not adjust your attitute and learn something.

Jesus fuck are you stupid. Go look at HP's page, under customer service. They cover carbines and pistols in the same section that I zoomed in on because you are clearly a moron that can't follow simple instructions as proven by me having to delete your duplicate posts because you think you're entitled ass should keep repeating yourself until you're heard like some toddler throwing a tantrum to gain attention.

 

[TNTRAILERTRASH]

Well, its a carbine not a pistol, its a 10mm not a 40 and its the HP factory gunsmith giving instructions on how he wants it done not based on your experience. Why not adjust your attitute and learn something.

And now with the next edition of "how to Win Friends and Influence People."

I will add grinding on the feed ramp was a stupid thing to do when you don't know shit. Yes, I don't have a 10. Not a single Hi-Point do I own has ever needed the feed ramp polished. They are many.

 

[moona11]

And now with the next edition of "how to Win Friends and Influence People."

I will add grinding on the feed ramp was a stupid thing to do when you don't know shit. Yes, I don't have a 10. Not a single Hi-Point do I own has ever needed the feed ramp polished. They are many.

It was to easy