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Final results of the testing i was able to complete up to the current date. Cold winter weather moved in and prevented me from testing any ammo past what i had listed here. if money allows i will continue this in the spring with more ammo types. i currently have over 450$ invested in ammo, targets and misc supplies and thats about the max for now. ill clean up all the mixed posts and erase all the older replies to make this as comprehensive as possible. i also have pics of most of the ammo types now as well that i'll add.

all testing wil be done with my H&R sportster single shot at 50 yard targets.

The following paramters would be collected:
bullet weight
velocity average over 10 round string
10 round group size at 50 meters
overall quality
feed and function
"clean or dirty"

i was able to obtain the following locally:

CCI
Stinger HP
Velocitor HP
Short HP
mini-mag HP
standard velocity 40 gr. round nose
blazer round nose
#12 birdshot capsulated

Winchester
T22 target 40 gr standard vel LRN
super X hollow point
super X short round nose
wildcat round nose
#12 birdshot crimped

Remington
Yellow jacket hyper velocity HP
short high velocity HP
Viper hyper velocity Truncated cone
subsonic hollow point
standard high veolcity hollow point
thunderbolt high velocity round nose
cyclone high velocity hollow point
golden bullet high velocity plated round nose
game load high velocity hollow point
"blue box" target 40 gr

Federal
gold medal target 40 gr
champion high velocity 40 gr
game shok 40 gr
bulk pack hollow point
#12 birdshot crimped

American Eagle
high velocity copper plated hollow point

Fiocchi
High velocity 40 gr LRN

WINCHESTER

WINCHESTER #12 SHOT

The factory specs on this stuff are completely lacking. there is no data for
velocity, quantity of shot or anything. my chrono refused to register it no
matter what distance i tried. The only thngi could do was shoot it and measure
groups at varying distance.

group size at 3' - 4"
group size at 5' - 6"
group size at 8' - 15"
group size at 10' - only about five pellets made a hole in the taget and they were
scatterd randomly over a 30x30" target. Very dirty, will not cycle semi-auto
cost 13.95/40



WINCHESTER WILDCAT

40 gr LRN
average group size 1.67"

velocity
factory spec 1255 FPS
average 10 rd string 1251
low 1240 high 1261

notes
Basic average ammo. Good velocity window, good groups.
cost 1.99/50



WINCHESTER T22 TARGET

40 gr LRN
average group size .90"

velocity
factory spec 1150 FPS
average 10 rd string 1132
low 1105 high 1159

Winchesters mid-range target ammo delivered good groups although the velocity variation was more than id like for a target ammo. slightly dirty but not bad at all.
cost 9.99/50



WINCHESTER SUPER-X HOLLOW POINT

37 gr HP
average group size 1.10"

velocity
factory spec 1280 FPS
average 10 rd string 1295 FPS
low 1275 high 1305

Good overall ammo, a littel dirty and a few cases extracted hard. one round in the box had a canted bullet and was discarded.
cost 2.86/50



WINCHESTER SUPER X SHORT

29 gr lead round nose
average group size 1.30"

velocity
factory spec 1085
average 10 rd string 1081
low 1070 high 1094

notes
the most accuracte short ive tested yet. smooth shooting and very clean. definantly a top contender in the short category.
cost 4.08/50



FEDERAL

FEDERAL VALUE PACK 550 RD

36 gr copper plated HP
average group size 1.70"

velocity
factory spec 1260 FPD
average 10 rd string 1244 FPS
low 1224 high 1269

notes
This is the most common bulk pack ammo in Wal-mart. Ive shot literal piles of
this stuff through a 10/22 with few problems past the occasional squib. i have
found a few empty cases in the boxes that QC missed but overall its good stuff. a
little dirty but not too bad.
15.99/550



FEDREAL LONG RIFLE BIRD SHOT

25 grs of #12 shot

velocity
no factory spec
didnt register on my chrono

did this the same as winchester ammo for group sizes at distance

group size at 3' - 3"
group size at 5' - 5"
group size at 8' - 10"
group size at 10' - 20"

Left several chunks of debris in the barrel, i think they were part of the wadding
in between the shot and powder charge. I had to clean them out with a brush
before contiunuing the test.
cost 8.95/40



GAME SHOK
40 grn lead RN copper plated
average group size 1.35"

velocity
factory spec 1260 FPS
average/10 rd string 1245 FPS
high 1270 low 1225

notes:
extremly smoky with lots of unburnt powder left in the barrel. also left a funky ring of gunk around the chamber face of my rifle.
cost 1.95/50



CHAMPION HIGH VELOCITY
40gr LRN
average group size 1.70"

velocity
factory spec 1260 FPS
average/10 rd string 1310 FPS
high 1342 low 1250

notes:
very littel smoke but left lots of unburned powder in the barrel. needed two passes with a bore mop to clean it out.
cost 1.85/50



GOLD MEDAL TARGET
40 gr LRN
average group size 1.20"

velocity
factory spec 1200 FPS
average/10 rd string 1205 FPS
low 1194 high 1210

Notes:
VERY clean shooting, almost no residue at all. also was a sweet smell after firing. i had high expectations of this ammo and it didnt let me down. delivered the tightest groups of the night and the smoothest ejection of the spent casing as well.
cost 5.95/50



CCI

CCI #12 ENCAPSULATED SHOT

31 gs of #12 shor

velocity
factory 1000 FPS
did not register on my chrono

did this the same as the winchester ammo for group sizes at distance

group size at 3' - 2.5"
group size at 5' - 4"
group size at 8' - 8"
group size at 10' - 13"

a littel dirty but not too bad, will not cycle semi auto
11.90/20



CCI STANDARD VELOCITY

40 gr LRN
average group size 1.65"

velocity
factory spec 1070 FPS
average/10 rd string 1006 FPS
high 1050 low 992

notes
while varitions in velocity hurt this round it shot above average groups for the day. it also shot VERY cleanly with no smoke and little residue in teh bore.
6.50/100



CCI STINGER

32 gr copper plated HP
average group size 1.20"

velocity
factory spec 1640 FPS
average 10 rd string 1675 FPS
high 1701 low 1650

notes
I have ALOT of expierence with this round as its my primary CCW fodder for my beretta 21A and PK-22. it relaibly cycles small autos and feeds and functions 99.9%. velocity variations didnt seem to hamper this rounds accuracy and it was very smooth and clean shooting, well worth the high price tag.
9.75/50



CCI MINIMAG

40 gr copper plated LRN
average group size 1.70"

velocity
factory spec 1235 FPS
average/10 rd string 1105
high 1115 low 1100

notes
this ammo was a complete failure to meet specs posted on CCIs webiste and on the box. the rounds had low power and inconsistent ignition for something marked "minimag". also velocity was WAY off of what they called for.
cost 6.99/100



CCI BLAZER

40 gr LRN
average group size 2.55

velocity
factory spec -i wasnt able to find any spec on the product box or on CCIs website-
average 10/rd string 970
low 755 high 1106

notes
all i can say about this stuff is DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY! it shoots extremely inconsitent veolcities and groups. half of the first group i shot were off the paper and i had to start over with a totally different aimpoint from any other ammo. It is VERY dirty and left a thick black ring of gunk around the muzzle. the only thing this stuff is good for is a bullet hose like my Ruger 10/42 conversion or a full auto rimfire conversion. there was also a strange smell after firing that vaugly reminded me of cattle urine or some cleaners ive been around. at this time i cannot reccomend buying this ammo at all and it currently resides in dead last for quality.
cost 1.99/50

Further notes- i called CCI customer service on this. they told me that since this lot was made, there had been change in the powder used. apprently one lot of powder had problems of some sort. i asked if there was any safety issues and the lady said no but accuracy and function was very poor with this particular lot of ammo. when the weather warms im going to buy a new batch and retry to verify results



CCI VELOCITOR

40 gr Speer Gold Dot HP
average group size 1.05"

velocity
factory spec 1435 FPS
average/10 rd string 1429 FPS
high 1439 low 1425

I expected plenty from this ammo as ive shot tons of praire dogs with it. It didnt let me down. Clean shooting, smooth ejection and very little smoke make this a top notch round. It does have a loud muzzle blast that will ring your ears if you're not wearing hearing protection.
cost 6.75/50



CCI SUBSONIC HP

40 gr lead hollow point
average group size 1.70"

velocity
factory spec 1050 FPS
average 10 rd string 1034 FPS
low 1044 high 1070

notes
lots of unburned powder int he bore but otherwise clean shooting.
cost 3.99/50



REMINGTON

REMINGTON SUBSONIC

38 gr lead round nose
average group size 2.05"

velocity
factory spec 1050 FPS
average 10 rd string 1055 FPS
low 1040 high 1076

notes
VERY smokey and stinky ammo. had one round that was an apprent overcharge as it was WAY hotter than the rest at about 1200 FPS. i discounted it from testing numbers but noted it here.
cost 2.78/50



REMINGTON GOLDEN BULLET SHORT

29 gr brass plated round nose
average group size 2.45"

velocity
factory spec 1095 FPS
average 10 rd string 1101 FPS
low 1049 high 1105

notes
upon opening the box found several cases with deformed rims that wouldnt chamber. also a couple rounds had canted bullets. all were discarded. otherwise clean shooting.
cost 5.95/50



REMINGTON HIGH VELOCITY HP

36 gr brass plated HP
average group size 1.25

velocity
factory spec 1260 FPS
average 10 rd string 1210 FPS
low 1187 high 1260

notes
this ammo is no longer manufactured by remington and i found it in a mom and pop gunshop discount bin in a small town i service. the rounds came out of the box tarnished and the bullets had a heavy waxy coating. as they are not current manufacture we will discount them from the overall test but add them in for comparison purposes only. the ammo was very smokey and had a pungent, sharp peppery smell when fired.
cost .99/50



REMINGTON THUNDERBOLT HP

40 gr lead round nose
average groups size 2.26"

velocity
factory spec 1017 FPS
average 10 rd string 1025 FPS
low 1010 high 1040 - one squib load at 775 FPS discounted

notes
smokey and also had a couple squibs with this ammo. one bullet didnt even leave the barrel of my rifle. the other was a couple feet off target. most of the other rounds seemed inconsistent in power but velocity numbers were fairly tight.
cost 3.95/50



REMINGTON GOLDEN BULLET
comes in bulk packs as well as 100 round packs
40 gr LRN copper plated
average group size 2.10"

velocity
factory spec 1255 FPS
average/10 round string 1230 FPS
high 1278 low 1201

notes EXTREMELY DIRTY. left a heavy "lube star" on the muzzle and plenty of unburned powder and gunk in the barrel. had to stop for a full cleaning at this point as the fouling would have thrown off further tests.
cost 6.95/100



REMINGTON 'BLUE BOX' TARGET

40 gr LRN
average group size 1.75

velocity
factory spec 1150 FPS
average/10 rd string 1132 FPS
high 1187 low 1120

notes
Very little fouling or smoke, clean shooting. there was some kind of shiny coating on the bullet that i could mar with a fingernail, im assuming it is some kind of lube, possibly wax based. with poor accuracy this doesnt rate the target ammo cost, and doesnt meet target ammo standards for me.
cost 11.95/100



REMINGTON VIPER HYPER VELOCITY

36 gr truncated cone flat point
average group size 2.50"

velocity
factory spec 1410 FPS
average/10 rd string 1401 FPS
high 1405 low 1389
cost 2.85/50

notes
the first thing in noticed about these when i took them out of the box was very inconsistent bullet manufacture. the bearing bands of the bullet were peened onto the truncated bullet nose in varying degrees and not consistently around the bullet. I have plans to call remy on this one to see if this is the way its supposed to be or if these are mis-manufactured. i feel this inconsistent bullet mfg hurt the accuracy potential of these. a re-test may be needed depending on what remy says. they were also very dirty to shoot with LOTS of smoke and some barrel fouling.

added note. i spoke to remy customer service on the bullet problem and the lady on the phone said she would look into it and get back to me. that was two months ago and i never got a call back. Accuracy test stands as i looked at a different lot of these rounds and the peening was still there.



REMINGTON YELLOW JACKET HYPER VELOCITY

33 gr truncated hollow point
average group size 1.34"

velocity
factory spec 1500 FPS
average/10 rd string 1505 FPS
high 1510 low 1500
3.99/50

notes
VERY tight velocity window on this round helped it stand out from the pack. i feel it also contributed to above average accuracy. the rounds are clean shooting and i alos noticed they seemed to be a slightly tighter fit in the chamber vs others. I had no ejection problems at all. they also feature a neat headstamp (il post pics later) integrating the remington "R" and a stylized insect. low cost and good accuracy make this a good bang for your buck buy.
cost 3.75/50



REMINGTON "GAME LOADS" HIGH VELOCITY

36 gr lead hollow point
averagr group size 1.00"

velocity
factory spec 1280 FPS
average 10 rd string 1278 FPS
high 1282 low 1275

notes
This round was a complete surprise back-of-the-pack winner. Less than 10 FPS deviation and consistent bullets gave it a decidedly excelent rating. Very clean shooting and consistent. Did i mention it was consistent? Best bank for the buck so far.
Cost 1.75/40



REMINGTON CYCLONE

36 gr lead hollow point
average group size .75"

velocity
factory spec 1280 FPS
average 10 rd string 1279 fps
high 1282 low 1278

notes
what can i say besides i was blown away. i actually had to shoot two targets worth of this ammo to make sure my chrono wasnt malfunctioning. the first ten rounds had a 1 FPS deviation. I honestly didnt think that was possible in the real world. the second test left me with a 4 FPS deviation. i guess ill take that! the bore was clean and there was a small amount of smoke when shooting. the group size was a surprise because while i was shooting, the rounds seemed inconsistent and off in ignition. both targets i shot measured the same ( i had 1 called flyer on each target). This is currently the top dog for group size and velocity variation both and it will be a tough row to hoe for the remianing contenders to beat. the fact it is one of the cheapest cost per round contendors yet doesnt hurt either.
cost 2.49/50



AMERICAN EAGLE HIGH VELOCITY HP

38 ge copper plated HP
average group size .95"

velocity
facotry spec 1260 FPS
average 10 rd string 1244 FPS
low 1220 high 1300

notes
the most accurate ammo of the night, but velocity varitions hamper it from its
true potential. clean shooting.
cost 2.10/40

 

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I've got 38 rounds of FIOCCHI match .22... how many do you need?
 

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Here you go SW!! Not mine but make some ballistics gel!!
 

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WHY DIDN'T YOU REMIND ME? I forgot all about sending you some boolits.
 

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You didnt test Remington Golden Bullet out of the 550 pack?!?!?!?!? There hopefully will be a part 2 coming.......
 

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i still have over 30 ammo types to test. i only had about an hour to kill so i didnt do a bunch.

look in the original post for a list of ammo im going to test.

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Here you go SW!! Not mine but make some ballistics gel!!
i would but ihave over 300$ teid up in this already and the wifey is starting to grumble, so i dont want to push my luck.

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I do not see on the your list any of the 60 grain aguilar, or the target .22 wolf, or any ely, or cb caps. There used to be a .22 short galley load called the rocket.
 

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Re: .22LR test- results UPDATED 12-27-08

for some reason it cut off the Fiocchi results

FIOCCHI

FIOCCHI SHOOTING DYNAMICS HIGH VELOCITY
40 gr copper plated LRN
Average group size .84"

velocity
factory spec 1255
average 10 rd string 1249
low 1240 high 1259

a very tight velocity window made this a good accurate round. a littel dirty but nothing excessive. one case got stuck in the chamber and had to be extracted with a needle nose pliers. i shot some extra rounds to see if i could duplicate this failure but i only got the one stuck out of all 40 rounds fired.
cost 11.95/50



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Re: .22LR test- results UPDATED 12-27-08

I do not see on the your list any of the 60 grain aguilar, or the target .22 wolf, or any ely, or cb caps. There used to be a .22 short galley load called the rocket.
my list is by no means every avilable round. its what i could lay my hands on locally. If you wish to donate some to the test, credit will be given in the post.

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sw.

thank your for your report. i haven't really spent add'tl fund with .22lr ammo, and i just assumed the higher price stuff would do alot better.
 

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Re: .22LR test- results UPDATED 12-27-08

I have found the Remington 36gr Game Load and Remington 36gr Cyclone to be the most accurate in my Ruger 22/45 and Ruger 10/22. My Savage MkII prefers the Remington 40gr Thunderbolts (still get a good many dud's in each box) while my Springfield Armory (CZ produced) M6 Scout does best with Winchester X-Pert22 ammo. All of my rimfires will deliver decent performance with CCI Mini-Mag 36gr HP's or 40gr Solids.

Everyone that owns a .22lr or .22WMR should conduct similar test of locally available ammo to see what their guns perform best with. Dropping by ole Wally Mart and picking up the cheapest .22lr bulk pack on the shelf, and calling it good, is not doing justice to one's .22 or shooting abilities. Having a 5k stock of bulk pack ammo that produces 1.5" to 2"+ groups @ 50yrds is worthless if you are depending on having supper during a SHTF scenario.
 

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Hey SW,

Nice report.
Thanks
 

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can we get a "so in conclusion" ?
 

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any plans on testing with your beretta 21A i would love to see the results of a short barreled pistol.
 
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