40 short and weak?

Discussion in 'Caliber Zone' started by Browning 9 Guy, Apr 14, 2018.

  1. Browning 9 Guy

    Browning 9 Guy Premium Supporter Member

    i keep seeing the term "short and weak" applied to the 40 S&W cartridge. While its not the most powerful, 40 is certainly no weakling. It's snap is authoritative, velocity is respectable and I one blew right through 10 empty steel paint cans with a 180 gr FMJ Federal round. Does anyone here have less than good thoughts on the round?
  2. cicpup

    cicpup Resident PITA Supporting Member

    Kind Sir. I beg to differ. The 440 is neither short nor weak.

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  3. Zorba

    Zorba "The Veiled Male" Member

    440 Six Pack!
  4. SWAGA

    SWAGA Lifetime Supporter

    I wouldn’t call all Northern Ohioans short and weak.
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  5. Browning 9 Guy

    Browning 9 Guy Premium Supporter Member

    Thanks for the replies. I'm arguing in favor of 40 S&W, not against. Those 10 shot-through paint cans are witnesses.
  6. Dane

    Dane + unkown number of likes Supporting Member

    But the Hemi is King!!

    Last edited: Apr 15, 2018
  7. Claymore

    Claymore Member


    Well, I've put down 3 coyotes with my .40S&W HP Carbine using 180grs + P. Golden Sabers, and my buddy put down a wild hog with a 200grs, "Longshot" reloaded Xtreme plated bullet.

    I don't think the coyotes or the wild hog felt it was a "Short and Weak" cartridge.
  8. shubbell

    shubbell Member

    Ah. Makes sense now.
  9. I've killed several coyotes with a 22LR
    The last one I killed was with my .410 Snake Charmer with #4 shot
    We have them all around and I always carry it when I take my wife's little dog out
    I bought a Kel Tec PMR 30 a few months ago
    I take it with me now
    Hope one of them MoFo's try me
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  10. I literally have wet dreams about shooting a Coyote with my PMR 30
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  11. Claymore

    Claymore Member

    He can explain the "Short and Weak" nonsense better than me

  12. Claymore

    Claymore Member

  13. Thanks
    This guy on the internet seems to be a true firearms expert
    But it seems he missed the part about the wound channel being the same
  14. Claymore

    Claymore Member


    Hope you have better luck than me with your PMR 30 !!
    I had 2 of them, and were both "Jammomatics".
    One of them (the newer one) started to come apart while shooting at the range, called Kel-Tec, spoke with a technician, he said to send it back to get it "Re-Glued"..
    Never bought another Kel-Tec product again.
  15. Yeah I'm.sure they said that
    400 rounds so far
    CCI Maxi Mag 40 grain hollow points
    Haven't loaded 30 yet
    First 25 rounds had 1 FTF
    second 25 rounds 1 FTF
    Then 2 25 rounds no FTF
    Since been loading 20 rounds and no FTF
    Funny someone on a Hi point Forum.talking shit about Kel Tec
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  16. Especially someone linking videos from that dumb ass as "proof" about anything LOL
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  17. Hey
    This guy is on the internet too
    He can get a PMR 30 to work just like I can
    If you can't maybe you are just too limp wristed ??
    I don't know ?

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  18. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

    I like Kel Tec's. And my PMR30 runs flawless.
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  19. Claymore

    Claymore Member


    Hey, get down from your high horse buddy !!!
    I NEVER questioned your gun choice, honestly, I don't care what you own or shoot, I just posted about my experience with the same gun, never intended to offend you, or any other PMR-30 owner, those were the facts about MY 2 PMR guns.
    As for Kel-Tec, I don't think I need, or want, to talk shit about them here, the whole gun world knows about that.
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