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To me the .40 S&W is pretty darn close to the average .45 acp round.

It may be a while before the 4595 comes out, you may want to give the .40 a chance . I do not think you will be disappointed.
 

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Why not have both? Or all 3 if you already have the 995?
 

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Very good point Primal :wink:
 
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Dumb question... Why three? Why not only two? Why do you need a third? You have 9mm and 22LR stick with them... I mean it is a carbine and a pistol not a high power rifle. Nothing wrong with 9mm! If you need one good high power rifle that 30-30 is a fine gun. Then you are set with ammo that is easy to get and shoot! Spend that money on ammo instead of another gun.
 

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At farther out ranges I think that the .40 S&W has the advantage, it has the flatter trajectory similar to the 9mm, and more knock down power, like the .45acp
 
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At farther out ranges I think that the .40 S&W has the advantage, it has the flatter trajectory similar to the 9mm, and more knock down power, like the .45acp
The 45 ACP is something at longer ranges
 

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Yes it is, I used to have a semi auto tommy gun. but you have to lob it in like artillery at 100 yds if I remember correctly
 

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I'd like to see a bit more info on this subject, if anybody has anything else to add, or a good link.

The .40S&W seems to be a real nice round; more hitting power than the 9mm, but not as much recoild as a .45acp (though I've heard some say they feel as much recoil).

If I can't get this figured out, I'm gonna end up with all 3 carbines (which may happen anyway, but I'm trying to figure out which will be first :wink: )
 

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I'd like to see a bit more info on this subject, if anybody has anything else to add, or a good link.

The .40S&W seems to be a real nice round; more hitting power than the 9mm, but not as much recoild as a .45acp (though I've heard some say they feel as much recoil).

If I can't get this figured out, I'm gonna end up with all 3 carbines (which may happen anyway, but I'm trying to figure out which will be first :wink: )
Your having the same problem as me. The .40 sounds like an all around great round but the .45 is know for it's stopping power but not for any kind of distance. That brings up another question....Does anyone make a +P .45 round? That would give it a little more throw.
Remington makes a +p Golden Saber
 

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go .40

the price of ammo vs. .45 is big if you shoot a lot.
consistent ammo is a big plus in my book
 
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I'd like to see a bit more info on this subject, if anybody has anything else to add, or a good link.

The .40S&W seems to be a real nice round; more hitting power than the 9mm, but not as much recoild as a .45acp (though I've heard some say they feel as much recoil).

If I can't get this figured out, I'm gonna end up with all 3 carbines (which may happen anyway, but I'm trying to figure out which will be first :wink: )
I think 40 S&W and 9mm kicks far sharper then 45ACP Shoot them along side each other. The 45 does kick but it is not a sharp kick..
 

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http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/buickot2.htm
Interesting results there. Looks like the .40 S&W and the .45 both did pretty well, thought the .45 was on the aim point and the .40 S&W was off a bit, but both penetrated very well too.

There doesn't seem to be any definitive answer to any of this! Looks like it just comes down to personal choice?
 
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The difference between .40sw and .45ACP is shot placement. :)
I would not feel undergunned with either and I would hope to hit center mass with both. Diversity training is a good thing. :lol:
 
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