[lklawson]

Wouldn't happen to remember where you left that lying around, would ya?

I guess I never did post it. I'll fix that right now.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

 

[ajole]

So, that thing is at this link?

https://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/threads/making-7-62x25-tok-from-223-rem-brass.327399/

 

[lklawson]

So, that thing is at this link?

https://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/threads/making-7-62x25-tok-from-223-rem-brass.327399/

Yup.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

 

[Bubba Zanetti]

A great cartridge! Had much fun running the hotter ammo that came over in 90's. Actually sold my Tokarev and CZ52. Wish a manufactured would put this round in a modern pistol in a 1911 configuration. Would be trick.

BZ

 

[lklawson]

A great cartridge! Had much fun running the hotter ammo that came over in 90's. Actually sold my Tokarev and CZ52. Wish a manufactured would put this round in a modern pistol in a 1911 configuration. Would be trick.

BZ

Good news! You can buy a "drop in" barrel:
http://www.jgsales.com/j-g-sales-7....ringfield-in-9mm-or-38super.-new.-p-6472.html

Or follow these steps for a conversion:
http://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/converting-a-1911-to-7-62x25-tokarev/99440#

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

 

[Bubba Zanetti]

I had no idea! Thanks!

BZ

 

[dgold7]

You could get a barrel in Tok custom made . This would allow you a 1911 conversion , provided you found the right mag . I've heard the 22 TCM from Rock Island makes a perfect fit .

 

[backbencher]

You could get a barrel in Tok custom made . This would allow you a 1911 conversion , provided you found the right mag . I've heard the 22 TCM from Rock Island makes a perfect fit.

7.62x25mm is a bit long for the 1911 magwell, requiring the rounds to be loaded at a relatively steep angle, reducing magazine capacity significantly, IIRC.

 

[dgold7]

7.62x25mm is a bit long for the 1911 magwell, requiring the rounds to be loaded at a relatively steep angle, reducing magazine capacity significantly, IIRC.

Have you known anybody who used the TCM mags in a 1911 ? If I recall correctly , these are only 2 mm shorter in OAL than the Tok round. If the Tcm rounds feed in their commander , would the Tok feed as smoothly ?

 

[backbencher]

I've talked to a couple of guys playing w/ the TCM.

OALs from Wikipedia:

.45 ACP - 1.275 in (32.4 mm)
.22 TCM - 1.265 in (32.1 mm)
7.62x25mm - 35.20 mm (1.386 in)

I think that 3rd millimeter is gonna do you in, unless you come up w/ a 1911 mag that you've cut the front & back out of. IIRC, the folks trying 7.62 in 1911s staggered the rounds steeply w/ a non-leveling follower, but could only fit about 5 in the mag. Given you've got perfectly serviceable Romanians and Yugos coming in, why bother?

If you really wanted to w/o modding the mags, you could do like the .22 TCM 9R, and use a short bullet in the 7.62 to meet 1911 .38 Super mag dimensions.

 

[dgold7]

I've talked to a couple of guys playing w/ the TCM.

OALs from Wikipedia:

.45 ACP - 1.275 in (32.4 mm)
.22 TCM - 1.265 in (32.1 mm)
7.62x25mm - 35.20 mm (1.386 in)

I think that 3rd millimeter is gonna do you in, unless you come up w/ a 1911 mag that you've cut the front & back out of. IIRC, the folks trying 7.62 in 1911s staggered the rounds steeply w/ a non-leveling follower, but could only fit about 5 in the mag. Given you've got perfectly serviceable Romanians and Yugos coming in, why bother?

If you really wanted to w/o modding the mags, you could do like the .22 TCM 9R, and use a short bullet in the 7.62 to meet 1911 .38 Super mag dimensions.

I saw a thread where somebody who did a 38 super conversion described how a flat follower mag allowed 7 + 1 rds in the mag. This would make a swap worthwhile. .Even new Zastavas lack great triggers. A good 1911 has a far better pull .A 22 tcm 9r conversion would be great , if feasible. The smith at J&G sales was highly recommended here.

 

[backbencher]

I saw a thread where somebody who did a 38 super conversion described how a flat follower mag allowed 7 + 1 rds in the mag. This would make a swap worthwhile. .Even new Zastavas lack great triggers. A good 1911 has a far better pull .A 22 tcm 9r conversion would be great , if feasible. The smith at J&G sales was highly recommended here.

9r is right out of this dicussion, it's shorter than standard .22 TCM to fit in 9x19mm pistols such as Glock 19s. I bought a Romanian Tok just to have the magwell & stock Yugo mags.

 

[ajole]

Why bother with 95 grains at 1300 fps, or 85 at 1600 fps, when I can go 125 grains at 1350, or 100 grains at 1600?
In a gun that holds 12-14 rounds.

.357 Sig in a P226, FTW.

 

[backbencher]

Why bother with 95 grains at 1300 fps, or 85 at 1600 fps, when I can go 125 grains at 1350, or 100 grains at 1600?
In a gun that holds 12-14 rounds.

.357 Sig in a P226, FTW.

Depends on how many spam cans of 7.62 Tok you've got socked away.

 

[ajole]

I guess so….but really…how many people bought an actual pile of those $89 1080 round cans?

 

[moona11]

I guess so….but really…how many people bought an actual pile of those $89 1080 round cans?

I might have 6

 

[lklawson]

Depends on how many spam cans of 7.62 Tok you've got socked away.

I guess so….but really…how many people bought an actual pile of those $89 1080 round cans?

I'm down to one unopened can and the last dregs of another. That's a tad more than 1,200 rounds. Wish I'd bought more.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

 

[ajole]

I'm down to one unopened can and the last dregs of another. That's a tad more than 1,200 rounds. Wish I'd bought more.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

As do most of us.👍

 

[moona11]

I bought them before I even bought the guns. So naturally I needed the guns.

 

[ajole]

It was like….fill the gas tank twice, or buy a 1000 rounds of ammo.

Of course, today, it’s about the same gas to bullet ratio for 223 or X39….except it’s 4-5 times as much cash.😡