Like many here, I own a wide variety of firearms from a .22 derringer to an antique Civil War era cannon. I share an interest in Hi Points and I think they are one of the best values out there. With some sand paper, a quick polish and some occasional maintainence they run great. At the moment I dont have much interest in the Hi Point Carbines, and I have never been a .40S&W fan and the .380 Hi Point just isnt for me (unless the deal was too good to refuse). However, I do own a 9mm and .45 model. For anyone interested, I did a test a while back comparing 9mm and .45. I have been conducting ballistic gelatin tests for nearly 10 years now, and while they arent the definitive answer to everything I believe they do a great job of representing calibers. Many studies have been conducted from collective law enforcement involved shootings to validate that. Anyway, I just figured I would post the pictures for you guys to look at. The first test was a comparison of 9mm FMJ to .45ACP FMJ (124 grain vs 230 grain). The second test was a comparison of Gold Dot JHPs (124 grain +P vs 230 grain +P). I will let you guys guess which one is which.