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I'm looking at spring powered air rifles for emergency small game hunting. They're usually quieter than .22lr and usually cheaper to shoot. I also know that PCP are more powerful, but one needs a fairly serious compressor (or a classroom full of 7th graders) to charge the air tubes. Springers are easier to operate, IMO, in emergency situations. So I'm posting in the caliber zone because I want to know if I should be looking at .22 or .177 caliber. .177 is the most common and it will kill squirrels or rabbits BUT the shot has to be near perfect. .22 pellets are a bit harder to find, but make bigger holes. Anyone here actually do any hunting with either? If it makes any difference, I'm looking at one of the $150 - 250 Gamo guns.
 

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I'm far from an expert on this, but I revived the hobby of shooting pellet guns in 2020 when all the ranges were shutdown, and managed go collect a few in the last 2 years.

For taking care of small animals you can get a .177 that can do the job. Just look for something that has an advertised 1200 FPS rating with the sub-7gn pellets everyone's marketing department has them use for coming up with a high number, and use 10 to 11gn or heavier, which will bring things down to around 900 or less. I don't have any .22 air guns since IL has decided to treat them as firearms and I don't want to deal with the hassle, but the reality of it is for most, the only difference between a .177 and .22 version of the same rifle is the barrel, so you'll be getting the same energy out of the spring, with the heavier .22 pellet going slower but having the same energy as a .177 at the range you would be using the thing. You might want to find one with a nitro piston instead of a spring, but it really is not necessary.

When it comes to accuracy, for target shooting the high power break barrel rifles can be kind of a challenge. Having the piston springing forward and then slamming to a stop, which usually happens before the pellet is gone, creates some interesting barrel harmonics. Of course for pest control, you'll probably be shooting at less than 30ft so it kind of doesn't matter. For target shooting you do have to figure out how to hold the thing or where to put it when shooting from a bag.

As far as brands go, in the research I have done, Gamo is one that many people seem to have had problems with and stay away from. Umarex and Walther are the two brands I have for higher powered break barrels, but Crosman and Hatsan also seem to be popular for the price range you're in.

FWIW, I bought all of the things through either the Air Gun Depot or Pyramyd Air websites.
 

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AGD was my go to when I coached an air rifle team. Pyramyd is also pretty good in their selection. I know what you mean about the springers - they recoil forward, or feel as if they do. I have no real problem with them, but you do have to shoot a little different than conventional guns. Thanks for input.
 
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Early in my time on this forum, i reported about an article I read in Guns & Ammo, circa mid-1980's about the use of air rifles for hunting squirrels and rabbits.

Basically the article stated 21 foot pounds of energy was needed to reliably harvest squirrels and rabbits.

That's 700 fps for .177 caliber pellets and 500 (?) fps for .22 caliber pellets.

The numbers may have been slightly faster than I listed. It been decades since I read the article.

It is illegal to use air rifles in some States.

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AGD was my go to when I coached an air rifle team. Pyramyd is also pretty good in their selection. I know what you mean about the springers - they recoil forward, or feel as if they do. I have no real problem with them, but you do have to shoot a little different than conventional guns. Thanks for input.
Actually springers have a double recoil. They first recoil forward, then when the piston hits the stop, it recoils rearwards. This is why they destroy scopes that are not specifically designed for them. A high dollar scope that will last forever on a diet of level 2 45/70 loads will give up the ghost fairly quickly if put on a springer.

Also because of the unique recoil of a springer you should familiarize yourself with the artillery hold. It’s exactly what it sounds like. If you have ever watched a howitzer fire, that’s exactly what a springer does. And it’s how you need to let your springer operate when it is in your hands. A springer locked into a lead sled usually gives poor accuracy.

As to caliber, it really depends on what you are hunting. I have taken many squirrel, rabbit, and starling with the 177. But you are correct, a misplaced shot can leave a critter to run away and become lost. I think you will be happier with something between 20 and 25 caliber. Before the great fire of ‘99, one of my favorite small game rifles was the Benjamin Sheridan Blue Streak in 20 caliber.

Today, I have no pneumatic air rifles, mine are either gas or spring / piston driven. And I stick with 177 or 22 caliber. Simply because of supply. I can get the .20 and .25 pellets, but I have to go to a dedicated sporting goods store to get them. That means at least a 1 1/2 hour round trip drive for me. (Yes, I know I can order on line) I can pick up .177 and .22 pellets at the local Wally World ( 30 minute drive round trip) or the local hardware store that’s literally within walking distance.

As to velocity? I look for at least 1000 fps with the 177 and 800 fps with the 22 if I am going to seriously hunt with them. My favorite today is the RWS 48 .22 caliber which is rated at 900 fps. I have taken everything from squirrels to whistle pigs and raccoons very effectively with the rifle.

FWIW, the RWS 48 is a springer, but it’s not a break barrel, it is a side lever. Much easier to use than a break barrel. I would suggest you look into a side lever rifle.

Finally, the springers are known for dieselling. Be sure to use oil to keep the seals supple, but a dab will do you. Too much and the spring piston guns act just like a cylinder of a Diesel engine. The compressed super-heated air will ignite the excess oil and produce a report not unlike the Winchester Rim-Fire cartridge.

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That's 700 fps for .177 caliber pellets and 500 (?) fps for .22 caliber pellets.
No, those are oft quoted figures, and no doubt many squirrels have wound up in the stew pot because of those figures. Never put my 20 caliber over a chrono, but I suspect it was maybe 600 fps. My point is that when velocities are that low, shots must be almost perfect, and I prefer something larger than .177
 
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@greg_r - that helps a lot. I've shot side lever precision .177s and I do like them better than the break barrels. They are harder to find and way outside my price ceiling. However, I could luck int a good used one, so... Nice to know I'm headed in the right direction with caliber too.
 

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I use a Daisy to clear squirrel from my attic.

Your .177 selections will do just fine as long as you don't gut shoot them and you're close enough.

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I've also found that the pellets can make a huge difference. Not the difference between pointed, round, blunt, or "hollow point." But, instead, simply quality pellets that are perfectly cast, the exact same weight from one to the other, with no blemishes or seams. I have some very poorly cast pellets that sometimes even still have mold flashing on them. Can't hit the broadside of a barn from the inside with 'em. But the standard Daisy or Crossman pellets work just fine and, if your rifle is sufficiently well made, the higher quality pellets can be even more accurate. For the .177, it's absolutely worth finding what brand and type of pellet is most accurate in your rifle and spending the money for those.

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Early in my time on this forum, i reported about an article I read in Guns & Ammo, circa mid-1980's about the use of air rifles for hunting squirrels and rabbits.

Basically the article stated 21 foot pounds of energy was needed to reliably harvest squirrels and rabbits.

That's 700 fps for .177 caliber pellets and 500 (?) fps for .22 caliber pellets.

The numbers may have been slightly faster than I listed. It been decades since I read the article.

It is illegal to use air rifles in some States.

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You really need to include the weight of the pellets and velocity to know the power.

Here's some chronograph data I have for my Walther Parrus, shooting 8.2 and 10.65gn pellets when I was testing to find what weight would keep it out of the transonic range. While the lighter ones will have more energy at the muzzle, it drops off pretty fast because of the weight and higher drag, you really want to use the heavier ones for what the OP mentioned.

FWIW, I have used this rifle to take care of a squirrel at 25-30ft that got in my garage and refused to leave even with all the doors open for a day. Little twerp decided to keep running along the rafters instead of just jumping down and getting out.

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I have a Beeman spring powered. It came with both barrels (.177and .22) and a scope. Stainless steel. I've taken birds, rabbits, cats. With the .177. Ive taken a wood chuck, rabbits lots of rabbits with the .22.. i bought quality pellets for both caliber.
 

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I have a Beeman spring powered. It came with both barrels (.177and .22) and a scope. Stainless steel. I've taken birds, rabbits, cats. With the .177. Ive taken a wood chuck, rabbits lots of rabbits with the .22.. i bought quality pellets for both caliber.
I totally agree with you and @lklawson. Shooting competition PCP rifles showed me real quick that quality match pellets really were worth the extra price. If I go .177, they are more available, being the most popular, and can be used with BBs in a pinch. Guessing the heavier pellets would be better for hunting applications.
Moonz, what model is that Beeman? I like the idea of 2 barrels. Didn't know they were made
 
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I totally agree with you and @lklawson. Shooting competition PCP rifles showed me real quick that quality match pellets really were worth the extra price. If I go .177, they are more available, being the most popular, and can be used with BBs in a pinch. Guessing the heavier pellets would be better for hunting applications.
Moonz, what model is that Beeman? I like the idea of 2 barrels. Didn't know they were made
Its the Kodiak or something.
 
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