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I'm just curious.

I've zip for defensive training, but i'd like to learn Krav Maga & haven't found anyone in my area that offers instruction...

If there are some folks that can give it a +1 maybe it'd be worth a deeper search on my part, or maybe I should just take what I can of the various other defencses, so I at least have SOME tools for wtshtf?

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+1000. Most effected for of self defense as it uses eye gouges and nut shots. The israel special forces use it I believe.
 

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thanks guys, i think i'll extend my search then.

fm some of the moves i've seen on youtube it looks like something even i could do... i hope...
 

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go to amazon and search. there are dozens of books on it. i did some reading and it seems that krav maga is more about using your situtaion to your advantage vs a defined set of moves or skillsets like traditional martial arts.

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I watched some YouTube videos. It seems like there are two basic skills:

1) Kicking a guy in the balls
2) Throwing hard, swing for the fences type punches like you would in a street fight

Could be handy, but could also get your ass handed to you by someone that really knows how to fight? Not sure.
 

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go to amazon and search. there are dozens of books on it. i did some reading and it seems that krav maga is more about using your situation to your advantage vs a defined set of moves or skillsets like traditional martial arts.
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I like the sound of that!

I just wanna be able to kick butt like Jason Bourne :D
Heck, it might be an improvement for me if i could do it like Barney Rubble.

Could be handy, but could also get your ass handed to you by someone that really knows how to fight? Not sure.
That's where I'm not sure how far to take the search.

Prolly can't hurt to buy some books, practice with the pups. And if the opportunity avails train in whatever is available. I think most anyhands-on preparation is gonna be a positive thing if tshtf. Just to know I have a leg-up on at least the Wal-Mart greeter if he decides to attack my family.
 

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Carefull CU some of those greeters are mall ninjas in disguise :blink:
Fixed. :D
 

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Carefull CU some of those greeters are ninjas in disguise :blink:
THAT is exactly what I feared! :D
 

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One of my buddies is a Taekwondo instructor. He's been wanting to become a certified instructor for Krav Maga. I don't know what all that entails but I hope it happens soon. From what I've seen it looks devastatingly effective. Youtube is thick with decent Krav Maga demos (and a few bad ones). The more basic moves (like the gun disarms) you can learn on your own as long as you're willing to practice. Since they're based on natural human responses I've found them pretty easy to pick up (although without a real person to practive on I admit I don't know how well I've learned them). I touch on disarms as part of retention training in my CCW classes. I have to be very careful what I teach though and how I present it. Overly litigious society and all.

I know there's a Mall-Ninja undercurrent that trends toward KM. They're easy to spot as they constantly wear BDUs and have command centers in their parent's basements. But that's no reason to avoid taking KM classes if you can find them. If I could find a Parkour group and a Krav Maga instructor around here I'd be happy as a clam in sauce.

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One of my buddies is a Taekwondo instructor. He's been wanting to become a certified instructor for Krav Maga. I don't know what all that entails but I hope it happens soon. From what I've seen it looks devastatingly effective. Youtube is thick with decent Krav Maga demos (and a few bad ones). The more basic moves (like the gun disarms) you can learn on your own as long as you're willing to practice. Since they're based on natural human responses I've found them pretty easy to pick up (although without a real person to practive on I admit I don't know how well I've learned them). I touch on disarms as part of retention training in my CCW classes. I have to be very careful what I teach though and how I present it. Overly litigious society and all.

I know there's a Mall-Ninja undercurrent that trends toward KM. They're easy to spot as they constantly wear BDUs and have command centers in their parent's basements. But that's no reason to avoid taking KM classes if you can find them. If I could find a Parkour group and a Krav Maga instructor around here I'd be happy as a clam in sauce.

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Parkour would be a blast. Those f*ckers are FIT.
 

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good info stonebrifge, thanks! I should definately make it a point to practice those disarms w/my sons then!

My oldest son is into parkour... i miss him. He's in Chicago for a few more weeks... s'pose he'll come back "FIT"?
 

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I’ve seen Krav Maga on YouTube too and agree that it seems very effective, however there’s nothing there that I haven’t seen in other styles; perhaps it’s the way they teach it?

I’m in my 28th year of martial arts training and consider some form of unarmed combat training imperative for the serious S&P person. If you think KM is what you want to do then go for it with both hands, however if there isn’t a KM outfit training near you, don’t use that as an excuse not to start training in something. Honestly, virtually any style of martial arts will teach you the basics of SD and how good you get with them is up to you.

As with all things in life there are good and bad training schools – some are just there to earn cash from wannabe ninja’s and mums with hyperactive ten year olds. The best dojos I’ve trained with have been free – or at least a token payment to cover hall fees etc. I ran a club like this myself for a few years.

You hear lots of ‘old sayings’ over the years but the most apt for this conversation is that ‘there’s no such thing as a good or bad martial art style, just good and bad martial artists’. In other words, aptitude and commitment is what makes a good martial artist – not the style itself.

If I was looking for a good all-round self defence training system right now, apart from KM I would look at jujitsu or one of the non-sport karate styles (as soon as point scoring comes into it, it loses its SD value); but all styles will teach you how to block, punch and kick which is most of what you need to know for those ‘chance social encounters’ we are discussing.

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Tae Kwon Do
Panca Bela
Kyukushin Karate
Muay Thai
Bushido Jujitsu
Vi Vo Do
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I think what sets KM apart from other styles of martial art is that it was developed far more recently and in response to a specific threat. The 'recently' part doesn't make it necessarily better but it does take into account a different kind of defensive scenario. The gun disarms are particularly modern and KM doesn't shy away from brutality. I think what makes it easier to learn in short order is that the moves are based on natural movement under stress and they don't change much based on the size of the defender or the direction of the attack. KM removes a lot of the 'spiritual' aspect of martial arts. It's just explosive movement to intercept an attack, a fast and brutal counterattack, and a quick retreat. No 'wax-on, wax off.'

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man that really sounds like exactly what i'm looking 4!
 

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Ok, this links to a KM home-training series on youtube. Lots of episodes available free and in order. Warning: this guy is sooo not the best instructor I've seen (and seriously, what's up with the 70's porno 'stache?) but you get the idea and he moves in the same basic sequence of learning the moves (they almost all start with learning to break the choke-hold) and it's free.

Check it out:


Also, searching for the Human Weapon series on youtube yields some good info.


If you have the luxury of finding someone who will let you practice weapon disarms on them (if you're situation's like mine it'll cost you dinner and a chick flick) get a water pistol or Airsoft gun and cut the front part of the trigger guard off. Really cuts down on broken index fingers.

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Woah! :wideeyed2: :yay!: thanks 'bridge!!

and I like that water-pistol idea. Been practicing with my boys & they naturally don't let their finger in the guard till ready to kill. But was showing it to another friend & boy was I glad i stopped short... would broke his finger big time!
 

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Ask around at your local JCC.
 
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