[PrimalSeal]

I checked on my orders tonight, and the amendments to those orders, which is the list of 24 firearms that I already sent on their way to Alaska yesterday when the movers left. Upon close inspection of the list, HALF of the list was wrong, either make, model, serial number or caliber/gauge, AND there were 2 firearms that WEREN'T EVEN ON THE LIST!!!!!!!!

I sent a serious nastygram to the Airman that supposedly typed up the amendments to my orders and also gave him a CORRECTED list of my firearms and told him under no uncertain terms that it will be corrected, TODAY by close of business. If not, I'll be talking to the Chief Master Sergeant in charge of his section. I am so far beyond pissed right now, I can't see straight.

This is the thing: Those 2 firearms that were't listed, if they aren't listed on the amendments, I CANNOT RECIEVE THEM IN ALASKA! To the Military, they basically don't exist, and are not "mine". Also, the obvious grammatical errors in make, model, serial number and caliber would draw into question the entire shipment, and in that case, if they don't make it to Alaska, I don't have any recourse to recieve compensation to replace them no matter what as they don't exist.

You would think that a professional organization like the USAF would be able to guarantee something as serious as this would be paid much more attention to detail. This is as serious as I can be right now. I am so beyond pissed it's not funny.

/rant

 

[kevron2020]

yes they should get it right... but remember... it is government dude... they don't get anything right...

 

[sean187]

That's messed up.i hope they don keep your stuff. :cantlook:

 

[Anon626]

I hope you get all your guns back bro, that is a shat-ton of BS. Keep us posted.

 

[SHOOTER Z]

Sounds to me like the dufus needs a General Patten [slap on the side of his head]

 

[HiPoint45]

Straighten it out man you can't be gunless in Alaska. Good luck and give em hell!

 

[Mstr33t]

Wow man that is F'ing retarded.

 

[squidbilly]

Oxymoron... definition.... Military Intelligence!

 

[blade55440]

Straighten it out man you can't be gunless in Alaska. Good luck and give em hell!

You can't be gunless in a place as gun friendly as Alaska. If I'm not mistaken you can OC, and they are HIGHLY CC friendly. I believe they're some of the loosest gun laws in the country.

Plus, a guy like Primal probably wouldn't miss the chance to blow the hell out of some large game.

 

[PrimalSeal]

You can CC in Alaska without a permit, just strap on the gun, cover it up and roll with it. I am going to call the NCOIC of that shop today, hell, I'll be stopping by to see him and find out what the hell happened and how it's gonna get corrected.

EDIT: I got an e-mail from the Airman that typed up all my guns on the amendments and he said he'd get that done today. His reason for not getting it right is he couldn't read my handwriting. Even to me, that seems like a lame excuse. As long as it gets done, I will be happy. I just hope he doesn't have to re-authenticate the amendments, as that'll take some time.

 

[blade55440]

You can CC in Alaska without a permit, just strap on the gun, cover it up and roll with it. I am going to call the NCOIC of that shop today, hell, I'll be stopping by to see him and find out what the hell happened and how it's gonna get corrected.

EDIT: I got an e-mail from the Airman that typed up all my guns on the amendments and he said he'd get that done today. His reason for not getting it right is he couldn't read my handwriting. Even to me, that seems like a lame excuse. As long as it gets done, I will be happy. I just hope he doesn't have to re-authenticate the amendments, as that'll take some time.

If they gave me the same excuse I would have to believe them, my handwriting is COMPLETE crap...

 

[cbdolphin]

Straighten it out man you can't be gunless in Alaska. Good luck and give em hell!

You can't be gunless in a place as gun friendly as Alaska. If I'm not mistaken you can OC, and they are HIGHLY CC friendly. I believe they're some of the loosest gun laws in the country.

Plus, a guy like Primal probably wouldn't miss the chance to blow the hell out of some large game.

Last I heard, there wasn't even a CC permit recquired in Alaska. Atleast that's the way it was when my dad left a few years ago.

 

[AGuyNamedMike]

Correct, no CWP required to CC. I understand that a CWP was still valuable to speed gun purchasing by bypassing the background check, but I believe that is going away this year, so, little point in getting one except for reciprocity use in other states.

 

[radair08]

Correct, no CWP required to CC. I understand that a CWP was still valuable to speed gun purchasing by bypassing the background check, but I believe that is going away this year, so, little point in getting one except for reciprocity use in other states.

Very good point, while it may not be needed it could still be good to have. Another form of ID, other states may honor it. Very good point.

 

[theqbn]

Obviously there's some military rule involved here, but I'm really curious why you couldn't have shipped your guns to yourself if necessary. There are exemptions for that sort of thing, since you would be shipping to yourself, even though it is out of state. I get why you couldn't throw them in the back of the car and drive up, since Canada is in the way...

 

[neothespian]

If all else fails, what are the rules of having arms from one private party shipped to your local dealer as a "purchased transaction". Just say that you decided to sell your firearm, and when you got to Alaska found a great deal on GB or something like that and have the "Buyer" (aka a trusted civilian on HPFF) send it to you.

Just a theory. This keeps the two firearms off federal lists, and puts them back in your had using the good old private market system.

 

[PrimalSeal]

The only problem here is space. I loaded everything on the truck and trailer tonight and I ran completely out of room. I am going to have to rethink the packing of my stuff in order to get it all on, or in the truck and trailer. I still have suitcases of clothes and uniforms and blah blah blah...

Also, about Canada, rifles and shotguns are not restricted, as long as you fill out their forms in TRIPLICATE, and I have 16 of those, and 8 pistols. The restriction comes in with the pistols as pistols with barrels under 4 inches, and I have several of those as well. I didn't have the time to do all of that. Besides that, if I let the movers ship my guns, they are responsible for them for 100% REPLACEMENT value, not the value of the gun right now. This is a good thing, as the guns are insured for full purchase value of the gun, and if the shipping company can't cover it, the USAF has no choice but to cover it.

All in all, it's the best way to go as far as the value of insurance and getting all the guns there in one piece.


Also, I currently hold a 003 FFL, so my curios and relics I could have just let a friend hold onto and ship directly to my house once I got set up with my new FFL to reflect my new address. That, as well, was too much BS to deal with.

 

[robertgreen_86]

Wow that sucks.......dont worr the army os typically like that as well.......two terms come to mind here SNAFU and BOHICA!!

 

[robertgreen_86]

Rifles and shotty are OK but expect hell about any semi autos. :cantlook: How ever it is legal to disassemble the weapons and ship the frames separate from the slides, via UPS but keep the barrels and springs or cylinders with you. That is how i got a few of mine that didn't fit the over 4 inch rule. Also try not to mention powder or primers when going through customs. They don't like those either. They will ask you how much cash you have on you and other goofy things like that. I suggest stopping at a bank in the states near the border and transferring about a 1000$ into Canadian. Use that for gas as you will save some money, Also if you give the Canadians dollars they will give you change back in Canadian with out any sort of transfer rate. Make sure you spend all those goofy looneys and toonies before you leave Canada as they are worthless in AK and most banks wont take them in for you. Pay with plastic were ever you can, and buy some food to take with you unless you like eating A&W as that seems to be all they have. Oh and don't forget the camera!!

 

[PrimalSeal]

Well, they finally got it right. About damn time. The only thing I saw on the new Amendment is that it's stated that I can "hand carry" all of my guns to my next duty location. :cantlook: Sometimes I think these guys are professional idiots.