ATF backs down

Discussion in '2nd Amendment' started by perotter, Mar 10, 2015.

  1. Today the ATF announced that it won't at this time ban M855 bullets.

    The :mumy::mumy:are sure are learning that they'll never beat the NRA types. Plus they've proven how weak they really are when you stand up to them.

    "After an unprecedented response, the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms has temporarily pulled its proposal to ban common AR-15 M885 "green tip" ammunition."

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...lls-ban-on-ar15-green-tip-ammunition-n1968508

    http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2...-piercing-ammunition-exemption-framework.html
     
  2. Rerun

    Rerun Supporting Member

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    Congress still needs to defund the ATF.

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  3. As long as they don't move the tasks that the ATF has to other department, that would be good.

    But if they move them to other it will just be "Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss".
     
  4. FlashBang

    FlashBang I Stand With Talon Lifetime Supporter

    Much ado about nothing..... all those people who ran out and bought up all the M855 should be laughed at.

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  5. Rachgier

    Rachgier Administrator Staff Member

    Unless they're a member of HPFF. Then we just abuse them mercilessly.
     
  6. Grumpy553

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    You are correct sir! If ATF is ever dissolved most of ATF would simply be merged/transferred into FBI, if the bill to dissolve ATF ever goes through. I have serious doubts about that ever happening anyway, but mostly it would be the same old song and dance. Same cheap suits, new badges.
     
  7. Bull

    Bull Just a Man Supporting Member


    HPFF members give away ammo. They don't gouge their fellow man....
     
  8. FlashBang

    FlashBang I Stand With Talon Lifetime Supporter

    We were talking about those that ran out and bought all they could find in a panic over it being banned. :)
     
  9. Bull

    Bull Just a Man Supporting Member


    Already seen a few guys trying to resell it on armslist for right about what it cost..... The gougers have been stymied!
     
  10. lklawson

    lklawson Staff Member

    I keep seeing the words "temporarily" and "for now" in association with this report.

    Peace favor your sword,
    Kirk
     
  11. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    They are just doing that to look tough, save face. TOO LATE!:D
     
  12. USMC_VET

    USMC_VET Supporting Member

    Watch nutnfancy's latest video about the m855 ban , he mentions people who have stocked up on LAP ammo have been vindicated and those are the people who have stocked up 5k rds of it . Saying these people were very smart in stockpiling this ammo and they will be well stocked when the time comes to use this ammo

    Can't figure out how to copy/paste nutnfancy's video using my dumb phone but it is very well worth the time to watch it as he has some very good point of views and possible scenarios which could happen from this ban
     
  13. FlashBang

    FlashBang I Stand With Talon Lifetime Supporter

  14. lsi1

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    i don't think this one is over yet. We currently have a king that likes to rule with the stroke of a pen.

    If I had gone out and bought up as much green tip as i could I wouldn't be selling it for a while.
     
  15. Temporarily means until a number of LEO's 'just happen' to be shot with with M855 bullets.

    For now means until a number of kids 'just happen' to be shot with AR handguns.
     
  16. That is 100% correct. M855's lead core and jacket keep it from falling into the (i). And it wasn't designed for a handgun.

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    It would be illegal currently for the government to ban it or restrict it. It's a good thing that the average :mumy:lives in the past and thinks it is still BI(Before Internet).

    For the link challenged:

    (B) The term “armor piercing ammunition” means-
    (i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or
    (ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.
     
    Last edited: Mar 10, 2015
  17. lsi1

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    5.45x39 also wasn't designed to be fired from a handgun which should have saved it from import bans.
     
  18. Bamaboy

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    Just be ready for Green tipped ammo to show up in large amounts at the next lone gunman's house with detailed notes about how this lone gun man plans to kill all the cops and see if the ATF doesn't spring into action to keep us all safe again.
    Question will Obama blame his Pen or his Iphone for this failure?
     
  19. lsi1

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    Neither he doesn't know it failed because it will never make the nightly news and thats the only way he ever finds out anything.
     
  20. USMC_VET

    USMC_VET Supporting Member

    listen to what Nutnfancy has to say about the M855 ban , he has some very good views about this and what this may lead to



    http://youtu.be/bgyzzzai-Ow



    here's the web address for form letters to be sent to the BATF and other officials over the M855 ban

    http://www.savem855.com/