Birchwood-Casey rebluing kit

Discussion in 'Gunsmith shop' started by GoesBang, Oct 17, 2020.

  1. GoesBang

    GoesBang Supporting Member

    Anyone with firsthand experience in using one of these? I’ve got a 50 caliber muzzle loader barrel with a bit of surface rust on it.
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  2. Rachgier

    Rachgier Administrator Staff Member

    It gets the job done. I re blued a .22 rifle, a 30.06, and a muzzle loader with that kit.
     
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  3. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

    Used it on several occasions. And keep it on hand. Prep work and cleaning make the world of difference. If it's just spots touch up is easy whole rifle needs a lot of work. Use a hair dryer to heat up spots to apply the blue, card and repeat till you get the color you want
     
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  4. greg_r

    greg_r Lifetime Supporter

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    It works well enough. Leaves a thin bluing that will fade with cleaning when new. Apply to a clean surface with heat like @moona11 says. Apply several coats, wipe with oil and let set. Time is your friend.
     
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  5. Rachgier

    Rachgier Administrator Staff Member

    I use a heat gun...
     
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  6. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

    I use a torch on a full gun. Lots of people don't have heating or a torch. But most have a hairdryer.
     
  7. cicpup

    cicpup Resident PITA Supporting Member

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    Guess I've been lucky. Everything I've done has fit in the oven.
     
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  8. histed

    histed Supporting Member

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    That doesn't screw up the temper of..... Never mind. Old guy moment
     
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  9. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

    My wife won't allow it.
     
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  10. cicpup

    cicpup Resident PITA Supporting Member

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    You're not supposed to tell her.
     
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  11. GoesBang

    GoesBang Supporting Member

    I might have to draw file and sand to bare metal. Thinking about a light plum bluing.
     
  12. Rerun

    Rerun Supporting Member

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    I bought a surface rusted Marlin Model 25 bolt action rifle from a pawn shop in Maryland during the middle 1990's for $40.
    I used the Birchwood-Casey rebluing kit. Just followed the enclosed instruction.
    The rifle came out so beautifully that I redid the stock.

    It's was the most accurate rifle I ever owned.

    eldar
     
  13. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

    I have 2 or 3 different kinds from Brownell. They turn out pretty good
     
  14. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

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    Wet tumbled brass one time and used the oven to dry them. Was not allowed after that. I have a small toaster oven I use in the shop now. Makes drying paint so easy
     
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  15. ichthyo

    ichthyo Lifetime Supporter

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    You should go the youtube channel Mark Novak The Anvil. He advocates boiling rust off to oxidize it. That will leave what is left of the original bluing which is much better than removing the exiting blue and rust and then applying cold blue. Cold blue will not have a long life.
    I have boiled, carded off the oxide, and then cold blued the entire gun to fill the bare spots where the rust used to be. You will still have the remaining factory finish. This has worked well for me.

    I have a long piece of PVC pipe that is capped on one end. I pour boiling water in the pipe and drop in a rusted barrel to oxidize it.
     
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  16. Not2ManyGuns

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    I've used Big 45 Frontier Metal Cleaner with success on one of my Colt 2nd Generation percussion revolvers that had a couple of small rust spots on it. It got rid of the rust spots but didn't hurt the bluing as advertised.

    https://www.big45metalcleaner.com/
     
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  17. lklawson

    lklawson Staff Member

    Don't do that.

    You're planning on taking it down to parts anyway. Do that. De-grease it. Then submerge it in boiling water. This will convert the red oxide to black oxide; i.e. "gun blue." Lightly card the converted area with 0000 steel wool. Make sure it's dry. Oil it. Put it back together.

    This is actually what field armorers used to back from WW1 through Vietnam, particularly with 1911 pistols. They were parkerized but would sometimes rust underneath the park because parkerizing really doesn't protect the gun from rust it is just kinda an open-cell hard foam-like sorta-sponge surface to hold oil. So the field armorers would boil the part and convert the red rust underneath the parking into black oxide ("gun blue").

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  18. Visper

    Visper AK = Automatic Killer!?! Supporting Member

    Just ordered some, $6.00 including shipping, I bought 2.

    I have some older AKs with "spots" I just keep oiled, but hopefully this does the trick.

    Thank you!!
     
  19. Kevin D. Weilacher

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    They are incredibly accurate rifles...
    I have the same rifle...1972 vintage that was passed on to me from my grandfather.
    I kept that one in lieu of a Winchester model 1895, .35 caliber ..
    Since my Glenfield Marlin needs some mild cosmetic, I just may well get one of these bluing kits and give 'er a go.
     
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  20. GoesBang

    GoesBang Supporting Member

    It’s the barrel that needs it.
     
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