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Will mom repair my firearm under warranty?

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Just a Man
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Guns just don't blow up for no reason..... Barrels rupture because of obstructions. Your previous round had to be stuck in the barrel.
 

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This looks to have been caused by a squib round.
Even the best ammo has a reject every now and then.
Glad you walked away with no lasting injuries.
I would get the ammo information(lot #) and contact the company.
Show them your gun along with boxes of the ammo used.
You may get some free ammo from them for your troubles.
Good luck with your repairs.
 

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Definitely a barrel obstruction, if a gun blew up because of bad construction it would likely be the receiver or the bolt, barrels don't just fail like that.

The brand of ammo you were using is irrelevant, ALL ammo can fail, ALL ammo manufacturers can have this problem.

I'd bet serious money that this was a squib.

Nobody here denies that HPs can fail, ANY gun can have a catastrophic failure, Glocks, Smiths, semis, revolvers, bolt guns, ARs, AKs, I've seen evidence of damn near every gun you can imagine having a catastrophic failure, it's the risk you take when you get in to shooting.


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Definitely a barrel obstruction, if a gun blew up because of bad construction it would likely be the receiver or the bolt, barrels don't just fail like that.

The brand of ammo you were using is irrelevant, ALL ammo can fail, ALL ammo manufacturers can have this problem.

I'd bet serious money that this was a squib.

Nobody here denies that HPs can fail, ANY gun can have a catastrophic failure, Glocks, Smiths, semis, revolvers, bolt guns, ARs, AKs, I've seen evidence of damn near every gun you can imagine having a catastrophic failure, it's the risk you take when you get in to shooting.

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I agree 100%..... All guns can have a catastrophic failure.... But I'm with you, the only way the end of your barrel explodes, is an obstruction..
 

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Thanks for posting that.
What ammo where you using?
Agree with the others, contact the ammo manufacturer also.
In the last year we've had several out of battery detonations here on the forum but no barrel failures.
 

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First of all I'm sorry for wasting anyone's time who has commented, but I do have a question. I recently received a new firing Pin with Springs from hi point and was told to install the new Springs and not reuse the old. Upon inspection, the larger of the two Springs seemed longer on the new Springs. I figured mom knows best so I used them. This was the first time using these Springs. Is there any way that this could have contributed to the "squib"?
 

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Causes

Squib rounds are possible in all black powder and smokeless powder based projectile weapons. They are most often caused by negligence in the powder loading process (insufficient or no powder load), or a failure of the primer to ignite the powder at all. In the case of no gunpowder in the cartridge, the primer, when struck, produces just enough force to push the bullet into the barrel but no further. Subsequent rounds will pile up in a very strong weapon or destroy a weaker one. While this occurs most often because of handloading by inexperienced reloaders, squib loads are known to occur even in reputable factory brands. Other causes include deformed bullets and attempting to fire a bullet which is slightly too large for the barrel, although both of these scenarios would more likely result in some variety of catastrophic failure instead of a squib. A weapon that has been subjected to the abuse of a stuck bullet then had another one fired, will display a slight bulge in the barrel at the site of the original stuck bullet (provided the weapon survives). This bulge sometime presents itself as a ring around the barrel or can be detected by sliding one's fingers along the barrel to check for this occurrence should no ring be seen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squib_load
 

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First of all I'm sorry for wasting anyone's time who has commented, but I do have a question. I recently received a new firing Pin with Springs from hi point and was told to install the new Springs and not reuse the old. Upon inspection, the larger of the two Springs seemed longer on the new Springs. I figured mom knows best so I used them. This was the first time using these Springs. Is there any way that this could have contributed to the "squib"?
Not sure why your removed your original post :confused:

Did you notice a change in sound, recoil on the round before it happened? Was there any unusual smoke from the action? Were you rapid firing? This kind of thing, just doesn't "happen" without a cause.
 

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I can't see Mom not fixing it. I have never had to send anything back yet (knock on wood), but everything I have ever read has been positive. Mom will fix it.

Just thankfully you are ok and didn't get hurt, that is the most important part here. Guns can be replaced...
 

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Not sure why your removed your original post :confused:

Did you notice a change in sound, recoil on the round before it happened? Was there any unusual smoke from the action? Were you rapid firing? This kind of thing, just doesn't "happen" without a cause.
No change in sound or recoil. Only a little smoke, but no different than any other time I've shot it. And as far as removing my post, it did it because I'm a little ashamed that I posted without thinking first. Absolutely not rapid firing, never have rapid fired anything besides my xd-m.
 

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It will come back like new, you can mail your long gun via USPS priority mail, might cost you $15 max, plus you'll probably get a spare mag to make up for your shipping back to MOM.
 

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No change in sound or recoil. Only a little smoke, but no different than any other time I've shot it. And as far as removing my post, it did it because I'm a little ashamed that I posted without thinking first. Absolutely not rapid firing, never have rapid fired anything besides my xd-m.
Don't sweat it..... We're just trying to keep it from happening to you again... And mom's warrantee is almost 100% blame free, she'll come back good as new!
 

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First of all I'm sorry for wasting anyone's time who has commented, but I do have a question. I recently received a new firing Pin with Springs from hi point and was told to install the new Springs and not reuse the old. Upon inspection, the larger of the two Springs seemed longer on the new Springs. I figured mom knows best so I used them. This was the first time using these Springs. Is there any way that this could have contributed to the "squib"?
Nope.
Squib loads is always ammo.
Most squib load vids on YouTube show only the primer going off but this guy has a vid where he is intentionally looking for a squib load which does cycle the action. So it is a partial power load.


I guess it can also happen with contaminated ammo. Moisture or oil seeping into the cartridge.

* I urge you to put your original post back up *
We may be HiPoint aficionados but we're not extremists that will lob your head off for having a squib load.
 

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No change in sound or recoil. Only a little smoke, but no different than any other time I've shot it. And as far as removing my post, it did it because I'm a little ashamed that I posted without thinking first. Absolutely not rapid firing, never have rapid fired anything besides my xd-m.
Nothing to be ashamed of. A lot of posts are made without thinking. Not me of course, but many others have.
 

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Nope.
Squib loads is always ammo.
Most squib load vids on YouTube show only the primer going off but this guy has a vid where he is intentionally looking for a squib load which does cycle the action. So it is a partial power load.


I guess it can also happen with contaminated ammo. Moisture or oil seeping into the cartridge.

* I urge you to put your original post back up *
We may be HiPoint aficionados but we're not extremists that will lob your head off for having a squib load.
OK, my original post stated that my barrel blew up today when I was at the range. It has already seen 1000+ loads with no failures. Today on my 19th shot (2 mags plus first round out of the 3rd) the barrel blew out. I now understand it must have had an obstruction, causing the second round to burst the barrel. I was glanced by a small piece of shrapnel in my right hand and the front sight base exploded hitting me in the safety glasses right dead center of my eye. I was using new match grade ammo that I had purchased roughly two weeks ago for use in sighting in my new red dot. I didn't intentionally start this thread to bash hipoint in any way. In these tough economic times, I can't really justify replacing a firearm instead of rent or other bills. I'm really hoping mom comes through for me on this one. If they do, they will definitely have a customer for life.
 

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OK, my original post stated that my barrel blew up today when I was at the range. It has already seen 1000+ loads with no failures. Today on my 19th shot (2 mags plus first round out of the 3rd) the barrel blew out. I now understand it must have had an obstruction, causing the second round to burst the barrel. I was glanced by a small piece of shrapnel in my right hand and the front sight base exploded hitting me in the safety glasses right dead center of my eye. I was using new match grade ammo that I had purchased roughly two weeks ago for use in sighting in my new red dot. I didn't intentionally start this thread to bash hipoint in any way. In these tough economic times, I can't really justify replacing a firearm instead of rent or other bills. I'm really hoping mom comes through for me on this one. If they do, they will definitely have a customer for life.
You won't have to worry..... It'll be taken care of.
 
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