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no, not Black Powder, I mean Blood Pressure...

Moley has gained some weight during these insane lockdowns. But it's coming off.
I had Lisinopril 10-20 milligram RX and then it went up to 30, then 40 mg. So I got serious
about shedding some pounds and the good Dr. Puchallapauli (Indian, dot not feather) has
deemed it necessary to reduce my dose to 30mg.

I know we have some old time phat phuques* and degenerates here with experiences in
BP meds, I am seeking some guidance and help in this area. I do want to get back down
to F&F weight (fighting and f*cking) even if mrs, mole does not approve 馃ぃ馃ぃ馃ぃ

I gotta get healthy, I know how to do anything else jsut fine, so anyone with any experiences
in the blood pressure management, I'd love to hear from you. @Rachgier feel free to chime in
as you have so far defeated the Grim Reaper (not to be confused with REAPER) a few times

馃挭馃槑馃憤

*hat tip @cicpup get yo a$$ back in here ya crybaby crunt
I'm under threat of ban-hammers too, but that ain't stopping me!
 

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Watch your sodium, caffeine, and get off your ass. Age, weight, and a sedentary lifestyle will kill you. You don't really have any other vices to worry about. Drugs, alcohol, nicotine, etc.
 

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yeah I vaped for about a year, decided I did not need it

Activity is easy when working, but my day job (lol) has been researching investments. Pretty sedentary...
I can make money, but what use is that if I'm DEAD? :eek:
 

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Start taking dogs for walks. My high energy nut job keeps me moving.
 

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I鈥檓 not a bit of help. I鈥檓 sedentary, I eat WAY too much salt, sugar and caffeine. Last physical the doctor asked what meds I was using to get my pressure so low. When I said none, he got a confused look on his face, and ran the cuff up tight to check it again.
I told him it鈥檚 because I don鈥檛 hold crap in. I yell, blow off steam, and get over it. But mostly I avoid the news and I don鈥檛 listen to politicians.
 

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I have a history of Hypertension in my family. My uncle died from untreated HBP. I am on Amlodipine and Losartan to control my HBP. I just need to get more exercise.
 
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Start with this 1 exercise...The Pushaways, as in push away from the table. Then do as Rach said, get off yer arse.

I've been walking almost 2 miles every day since mid-March when they told me I had to get my blood sugar and A1c down before they would operate on my shoulder. I've also been watching what I eat, and portion control by reading/following what's on the food labels.

So far I've lost almost 15lbs, my blood sugar is down, varying between 85 and 118, my A1c dropped from 10.5 to 8.2. I'm hoping that's low enough so they'll do both my right shoulder replacement and my kidney stone soon. Kidney stone is scheduled for May 7th but they "said" my A1c has to be below 8.0, expect a call from the urologist this week for the yea or nay.

I also take BP meds and my BP is also low now, usually in the low 100-115/67-70 range. I think I'm actually on too much medication right now, when I bend over and straighten back up I get dizzy. I see my PCP Thursday to see what she thinks.

I've stopped eating bread, if I want a sandwich I put whatever it is on an Ole Xtreme Wellness tortilla wrap or eat it plain. I ate a hamburger on a tortilla wrap the other day and it was pretty good and not as filling as a bun. Also stopped eating cake, pie, and sweets. Man I love apple or blueberry pie and chocolate, but I want to live to see my grandkids get old so I have to knock it off.

I'm trying not to eat after 6pm or snack so much during the day. The walks help, being retired gives me a lot of free time, but I'm also trying to find other things to do, especially at night. I recently bought some wargaming miniatures to paint, always wanted to do that anyway. I got a starter set of WW2 US and German figures from Bolt Action to try my hand on, along with several bottles of Vallejo paint. Maybe some medieval knights are next!

One good thing in my favor is there's nothing good on TV these days, so being a coach potato is out. Don't have a woman in my life to keep me hopping but wouldn't mind if I did, getting these numbers down will help in case "the need arises" if you catch my drift.

It's tough, this past year's worth of being cooped up in the house due to covid hasn't helped keep the weight down.
 

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I鈥檓 not a bit of help. I鈥檓 sedentary, I eat WAY too much salt, sugar and caffeine. Last physical the doctor asked what meds I was using to get my pressure so low. When I said none, he got a confused look on his face, and ran the cuff up tight to check it again.
I told him it鈥檚 because I don鈥檛 hold crap in. I yell, blow off steam, and get over it. But mostly I avoid the news and I don鈥檛 listen to politicians.
Before I retired as a carpenter I never had high blood pressure. I got to hit things with a hammer.

After I retired BP started to rise and I was getting cranky. So I started to bake bread and took out my frustrations kneading the bread. Works pretty good though this past year has been challenging.

Anybody want to buy 600 loaves of bread?
 

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What @Dubar said about diet playing a key role is on the money. I'll add another point. Your diet must not become something temporary. You must adopt it for good.

I eat a sandwich every day because that is a convenient and satisfying item to pack in my lunch. However, I use whole wheat bread. Look in the ingredients--do not be fooled by the statement "made with whole wheat." Some breads have whole wheat components, but whole wheat is not the foundation. It must be the first ingredient in the bread. Also, whole wheat tortillas are a good alternative. I eat two pieces of the bread and a tortilla on most days.

I also minimize the amount of condiments I use on my sandwiches. A little barbecue sauce or mayo, depending on the ingredients is what I use. It should be only the thinnest layer on the bread. Don't slather it on.

I also like to put boiled or pickled eggs in my lunch, along with nuts (not peanuts) and some sort of jerky. Rx Bars and Pure Protein bars are a good way to boost protein intake while getting something sweet in there to make the meal really hit the spot. You can also boil or steam yams and add them to your lunch. Just cut them up, and slip them into a sandwich bag to eat cold. They taste good and provide potassium. I've been eating like this for years, so it truly is sustainable in the long-term.

In the evening, I don't always eat. The only time I eat is if my wife has made some random thing for me involving some rice, eggs and vegetables.

A note on eggs: eat the yolks. You need the fatty acids to maintain the myelin sheath on your optic nerves. I got a talk about that some years ago when I was in the chow hall, down range as I ate breakfast one morning. An Md told me that when he saw me pulling the yolks from my boiled eggs. He said that there is a correlation between the increase of macular degeneration and the modern vilification of egg yolks. He also emphasized that dietary cholesterol does not translate into blood cholesterol. Blood cholesterol is more a function of genetics and activity level.

Lastly, don't bring junk food into your house. If it isn't there, you won't be tempted.

For exercise, brisk--and I mean BRISK--walking for 30 minutes 4-5 times per week is important. You can also get your heart rate into the aerobic range by doing calisthenics in a circuit. Look up cardio circuit training. It's what I do.

I have been having some joint issues, which have put a crimp on the intensity of my workouts, but I still do what I can do. It just means fewer reps of dips and pull-ups and dispensing with the wall hand stands. I still hang from the dip bars and pull myself from the ground, while keeping my legs parallel to the floor and then press my feet and legs to the ceiling so that I am vertical and hanging inverted. That is a good ab and shoulder exercise, combined. While hanging, you can lower your torsoe as low as you can and press back to the vertical position a few times. After that, you can do a shoulder shrug while hanging upside-down. Do the shrug slowly and hold it. Just a couple will suffice.

You need the muscle to aid with burning more calories, and raising your heart rate with those exercises burns more than the walking, alone. You can go and speed walk for 10 minutes until your heart rate is in the appropriate range, do the calisthenics, and then finish up with some more speed walking.

Edit: I highly recommend you buy one of those exercise stations for your home, which have a pull-up bar on one side, dip bars on the other, and a back rest for leg raises. It is the best thing I ever bought for calisthenics.
 

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Find a Judo club and a Boxing club. Don't waste time with most other martial arts. Avoid Tae Kwon Do. There's some good karate but you kinda have to know what you're looking at, so skip that too. No Aikido. Brazilian Ju Jitsu is fine but they tend to be overpriced and full of young, testosterone soaked, dudes with fantasies of competition success.

Muay Thai and la Savate are good but less easy to find.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
 
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ROLL wif Da MOLE!
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Find a Judo club and a Boxing club. Don't waste time with most other martial arts. Avoid Tae Kwon Do. There's some good karate but you kinda have to know what you're looking at, so skip that too. No Aikido. Brazilian Ju Jitsu is fine but they tend to be overpriced and full of young, testosterone soaked, dudes with fantasies of competition success.

Muay Thai and la Savate are good but less easy to find.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
Got a friend in INDY who is into karate

He said they call it
"TAKE ONE'$ DOUGH"

GOOD STUFF HERE, People!
I've been doing intermittent fasting and it's working well so far but I must add in these other things.

My doggie loves the suggestions of moar dog walking
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no, not Black Powder, I mean Blood Pressure...

Moley has gained some weight during these insane lockdowns. But it's coming off.
I had Lisinopril 10-20 milligram RX and then it went up to 30, then 40 mg. So I got serious
about shedding some pounds and the good Dr. Puchallapauli (Indian, dot not feather) has
deemed it necessary to reduce my dose to 30mg.

I know we have some old time phat phuques* and degenerates here with experiences in
BP meds, I am seeking some guidance and help in this area. I do want to get back down
to F&F weight (fighting and f*cking) even if mrs, mole does not approve 馃ぃ馃ぃ馃ぃ

I gotta get healthy, I know how to do anything else jsut fine, so anyone with any experiences
in the blood pressure management, I'd love to hear from you. @Rachgier feel free to chime in
as you have so far defeated the Grim Reaper (not to be confused with REAPER) a few times

馃挭馃槑馃憤

*hat tip @cicpup get yo a$$ back in here ya crybaby crunt
I'm under threat of ban-hammers too, but that ain't stopping me!
Walking shed weight from muh fat arse very easily.

Went from 30mg to 5mg in a little over a year and a half just by walking.

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I was very unlucky with lisinopril. I was one of the few people who had horrible coughing fits as a side effect and it seemed that more than once Mr. Ed made his way into the barn. I got switched to Losartan/HCTZ and the problems pretty much went away.
 

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I was very unlucky with lisinopril. I was one of the few people who had horrible coughing fits as a side effect and it seemed that more than once Mr. Ed made his way into the barn. I got switched to Losartan/HCTZ and the problems pretty much went away.
I was on one that made me cough, and a constant tickle in my throat. My new med stopped that.
 

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I was on one that made me cough, and a constant tickle in my throat. My new med stopped that.
Lisinopril will do that+make you pee a lot.

Mole, you aren't willing to admit that the cigarettes are adding to your problem. Die happy before your time.
 

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Lisinopril will do that+make you pee a lot.
Actually no, it won't. It's an ACE inhibitor, not a water pill. Remember, if you don't know, don't speak. And you speak too much, judging by how often you need to be corrected.

I've covered how Lisinopril works here on the forum multiple times over the past 8 years I've been taking it.
 
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Actually no, it won't. It's an ACE inhibitor, not a water pill. Remember, if you don't know, don't speak. And you speak too much, judging by how often you need to be corrected.

I've covered how Lisinopril works here on the forum multiple times over the past 8 years I've been taking it.
No you are wrong. I take 20mg a day even the 10 caused it. Don't care what it is classified as. When I first started taking it the cough, and urination were side effects told to me by my doctor. Just refilled it yesteray. Do I need to take a pic of the "MSDS" sheet for you? I'll dig it out of the trash.


Urination - excessive volume is found among people who take Lisinopril, especially for people who are male, 60+ old, have been taking the drug for < 1 month.


The phase IV clinical study analyzes which people take Lisinopril and have Urination - excessive volume. It is created by eHealthMe based on reports of 268,213 people who have side effects when taking Lisinopril from the FDA, and is updated regularly.
 

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I've been on a 40mg dose for 8 years. It doesn't make me cough, it makes me wheeze.

Did you even read that study? It said frequent urination is a side effect for .1% of 60+ year old people, mostly men, who are on it for less than a month or 2-5 years. The notation "<1" means less than. Angiotensin-Converting Enzyme Inhibitors cause the walls of your blood vessels to relax and have nothing to do with removing excess fluid from your system. You cherry picked an extremely tiny segment of the test.

Try something from the Mayo Clinic that's actually informative.
Lisinopril

Side effects
Doctors commonly prescribe ACE inhibitors because they don't often cause side effects.

If side effects do occur, they may include:

  • Dry cough
  • Increased potassium levels in the blood (hyperkalemia)
  • Fatigue
  • Dizziness from blood pressure going too low
  • Headaches
  • Loss of taste

In rare cases, particularly for black people, women and smokers, ACE inhibitors can cause some areas of the tissues to swell (angioedema). If swelling occurs in the throat, it can be life-threatening.

Again, if you don't know, don't speak. Sit down and shut the fuck up. Just like I'm sure you had no idea that frequent urination IS a side effect of over 1,600 different medications when treating over 1,000 different medical conditions. Of the 280,000 plus people your own study surveyed, only 280 people SELF-REPORTED frequent urination.
 
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Well tell you what, you need to dial back the insults. I have been taking it since 2010. I live the effects every day. I used to have the cough when I first started using it. Not any more. Still have to piss frequently after taking it in the morning. I can sleep 7-8hrs without having to get up and piss. A real inconvenience if you drive for a living.

To call me a liar is just total fucking bullshit. Give me a vacation for calling you out. You have been abusive to multiple members here and for some reason they contact me to ask WTF? Like I know why? :rolleyes:

No reason for the personal attacks, none at all.

Lisinopril is the only med I take.
 

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Show me where I called you a liar. I proved that you are factually incorrect, medically incorrect, technically incorrect, your own data outs itself as anecdotal, your own statements are anecdotal, and I used all those facts to once again prove you're talking out of your ass.

Congratulations on taking a medication for 11 years. I actually had to learn and study them, their dosages, contraindications, adverse reactions, indications, and mechanisms of action.

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Lisinopril can actually make you retain water and cause your kidneys to shut down. You need to drink more water while you're on it to promote good kidney function.



Tell me again why you're not wrong?
 
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