Breaking in Bad

Discussion in 'Hi-Point Carbines' started by dagger dog, Feb 18, 2019.

  1. cicpup

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    5%?
     
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  2. ajole

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    Yes. But....When you write it like that....it looks a bit high. I’m going to have to renegotiate the numbers.
     

  3. RCS

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    My gun is for sale. Make an offer. It's "broken in", chromed up, accurate, and has new parts. I'm not holding my breath since I bought this gun (and more ammo) out of curiosity mostly and, in case the 'crats go crazy with socialism and other ridiculous concepts that may involve my safety. I live in one of, perhaps the most "gunned up" states in the country so I have plenty of back up. What's the place coming to?
     
  4. OldOutlaw

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    Give ya one fiddy tops.
     
  5. osbornk

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    I have bought a dozen or more firearms new and I don't think there is a break-in needed. I once bought the number of break-in rounds it said I needed and shot them. However, I found out that they didn't malfunction and shot fine from shot one. I had one that had an issue after about a dozen rounds but it was a manufacturing problem and not a break-in problem. I have found that the triggers seem to smooth out after several hundred rounds which makes the firearm shoot better for me. I break-in a new gun just like I break-in a new car. I just use them like I normally do and do nothing different.
     
  6. RCS

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    Pragmatically, HP designs and manufactures an inexpensive gun. Their new product quality control isn't the greatest (in my experience) so they must feel the need to warranty and "back up" their product for the company to be viable. Different people have different experiences with them because they don't have good process control in manufacturing. As osbornk said above, I've never "broken in" a gun. Obviously, it means different things to different people here. One of the main reasons people buy HP guns is the price. They have a unique company and business model. So do companies like Sig and Kimber. You can spend a lot of money for a gun that does the same thing. It goes bang, arguably, more reliably. Over and out.
     
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    I will field strip, inspect and reassemble before I run 50 rounds of Herters 230 grain steel case down the barrel. I hope the trigger improves with shooting because it has a real vague
    let off, no grit but very looong pull.

    I have already bought a lego, the factory charging knob eats the flesh from my left index finger, bought a smooth knob from downrange
     
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  8. RCS

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    Good move buying the Downrange knob. Mine makes a night and day difference in comfort. It isn't a fun job disassembling this gun. A lot of the cleaning can be done just through the breach and HP told me how to do it. Basically, just open the breach and swab out the crap. I sprayed a pure silicone spray into the breach last time I cleaned it up and the action is slick as can be after the silicone carrier evaporates off.

    On trigger pull, it isn't a great trigger on the HP. I have my own philosophy and experience with "bad" triggers. FOR ME, it's a matter of adapting to what the trigger is. For example, I have a Gamo air rifle that's killed hundreds and hundreds of squirrels out of my sunroom window at 60 yards. It has a four power scope and it will drive nails with a shitty trigger pull. My Mini-14 has a bad trigger pull but I can shoot a very good group with it. FOR ME, it's just a matter of shooting the gun, knowing what to expect, and adapting to the trigger that's with the gun. For others, they feel a need to go buy a better trigger assembly or work on what's there. Both ways are right for the particular person. That's my thought for today. Go kill a zombie....
     
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  9. DIRSUPop

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    I've always run 300-500 hundred brass through any new weapon, cleaning it after each 100, before loading any steel case. When shooting steel case, shoot a variety to determine which is the cleanest, which will save you extra cleaning or barrel fouling when you least expect or need it.
     
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  10. TNTRAILERTRASH

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    Aluminum, and steel case being "dirty" is probably BS. Brass cases expand and stay that way. Steel and aluminum spring back letting gases go past the case.
     
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  11. Bertus

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    [/QUOTE]On trigger pull, it isn't a great trigger on the HP. I have my own philosophy and experience with "bad" triggers. FOR ME, it's a matter of adapting to what the trigger is. For example, I have a Gamo air rifle that's killed hundreds and hundreds of squirrels out of my sunroom window at 60 yards. It has a four power scope and it will drive nails with a shitty trigger pull. My Mini-14 has a bad trigger pull but I can shoot a very good group with it. FOR ME, it's just a matter of shooting the gun, knowing what to expect, and adapting to the trigger that's with the gun. For others, they feel a need to go buy a better trigger assembly or work on what's there. Both ways are right for the particular person. That's my thought for today. Go kill a zombie....[/QUOTE]

    I feel the same way about triggers. The Hi-Point carbine might not be the best trigger, but it aint that bad either! I thought mine actually improved after I put some Remlube to it and "broke it in" ;) Same thing with my Gamo, crappy trigger but with a little practice those red squirrels drop like a deer getting whacked with my 450 bushmaster! haha Now if i go from the 4595 to one of my hunting rifles I get reminded that a good trigger is very nice indeed though!! and can really feel the difference of course.

    I really do not feel like a break in period is required if the gun was built right. They are meant to function properly right out of the box. I would never even dream of taking my 4595 apart for cleaning unless it stopped working good. I think these type guns only need a little oil applied from time to time but maybe I am wrong.
     
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  12. RCS

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    On another note....I know for a fact that a Gamo .177 will drop a whitetail buck in it's tracks when shot in the right place. Somebody told me this, I would never try such a thing.......; )
     
  13. You can kill a deer with a beer bottle if you hit them in the right place.
     
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  14. ajole

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    Some deer can take a whole case and still don’t drop.

    Probably hung out with Marines for a while.
     
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  15. ajole

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    So...if the gas going by the case is full of powder and carbon and whatever, and it deposits that gunk on your bolt, in the action, in your firing pin channel leaving them all gunked up and carbon covered....

    .....that’s what we call, “dirty”.:cool:
     
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  16. Bertus

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    My 4595 felt a little rough when pulling the charging handle. I suspect most of what I felt was the firing pin spring compressing within the slide housing. I havent had any failures with it but what I did do to break it in, was squirt a little oil into it and just sat there and worked the slide and dry fired it several times, maybe a hundred or more and the roughness pretty much went away.
     
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  17. Northslope

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    all mine has ever eatin is WWB , almost two thousand rounds and counting . over 600 in the last week alone . check that , it did also get a few hundred of WWB nato rounds a while back . no malfunctions at all . zero. all fired from factory ten rounders and several redball mags . i shoot alot of the WWB. its cheap , easily available and all my 9s eat it up. none of my buddies have issues with it either , in many different makes of firearms .
     
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  18. RCS

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    Can't argue with success.
     
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  19. Northslope

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    my 995 just keeps chugging along , its eaten well over twice as much of its purchase price in ammo . when we go shooting its never left at home lol
     
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