Brother inlaw moving to NY....pistol legal?

Discussion in 'General Firearms Discussion' started by Tchort, Nov 4, 2014.

  1. Tchort

    Tchort Member

    I know NY state real pain with pistols. Lived their unfortunately for 28 years up state but cant recall residents and pistols.

    Dont you even need a permit to have one in your home?

    Brother inlaw moving back to NY, Buffalo area. He has a glock but i dont think he can legally poses in ny till he is there 6 months and gets approved for permit.

    Does anyone know?
  2. tallbump

    tallbump Supporting Member

    That sounds about right. Good friends of mine live just over the state line.

    They even have to have their pistols added to their permits, and change it everything they buy or sell one as far as I know.

  3. Rachgier

    Rachgier Administrator Staff Member

    Yes I do. He will need to follow the local rules of the AHJ in his AO to get his permit which could take up to 6 months. More than likely it will be Erie County. If he's up north of the city he may be in Niagara County. I grew up in Buffalo....

    NYS require possession permits to even own one and keep it in your home. There is ZERO reciprocity. There is no open carry, and CCW permits are "may issue with a valid reason". If he crosses the state line with it in his possession, he could potentially be charged with felony possession of an unregistered firearm.

    Erie County Pistol Permit Bureau

    NYS Troopers FAQ's

    Q - How does the law apply to licensed individuals from other states who move to New York and wish to posses their handguns here?

    New York State currently has no reciprocal agreements with any other states and does not recognize any other state's licenses. It would be unlawful for an individual to move to New York State and possess handguns in the state without first being licensed by the county in which the individual will reside.

    There are two options for individuals already in possession of handguns in their home state.
    •They must either leave the weapons in the possession of an individual in their home state who may lawfully possess them until such time as the owner can legally possess them in New York State, or
    •They may leave them in the possession of a licensed gun dealer in their home state who would be willing to hold them until that individual can lawfully possess them in New York State.

    In either case, the weapons can only be lawfully brought into New York State via a licensed dealer in the home state shipping them to a licensed dealer in New York State from whom the owner may take possession.

    Weapons personally brought into New York by the owner would result in forfeiture of the weapon and possible criminal charges brought against the owner.
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2014
  4. tallbump

    tallbump Supporting Member

    Hey Rach,

    sort of on topic.
    Any idea how it works to take an "illegal assualt rifle" into NY just to shoot, then take it back?

    Say I get that MP and want to take it to my buddy's for a little fun, then pack it up and bring it home that same day. Is that oK?
  5. Rachgier

    Rachgier Administrator Staff Member

    Let me check with a cop buddy, but I do know that if you ARE allowed to legally, you would only be allowed to have the 10rd mags with it. Anything over that capacity is illegal.
  6. tallbump

    tallbump Supporting Member

    Hmmm....that's pretty lame. Considering it comes stock with a 25 round mag :rolleyes:
  7. Rachgier

    Rachgier Administrator Staff Member

    Okay, just hung up the phone with a State Trooper buddy. He says that an out-of-state resident CANNOT bring a long gun for training, competition, or hunting purposes in to NYS if it meets the criteria of an "assault rifle" as laid out by the SAFE Act. He suggested you call the NYSP hotline for personal verification if you don't believe him/me and/or contact the NYSP Barracks and Sheriff's office in the area you want to bring it in to.
  8. tallbump

    tallbump Supporting Member

    Wow...that's ridiculous.

    And from what I hear, PA might be headed down that same path.

    Thanks for the prompt reply
  9. Tchort

    Tchort Member

    Thats what i was thinking. Thanks for the direct link. Texted it to brother inlaw.
  10. Rachgier

    Rachgier Administrator Staff Member

    No problem man. Hate to see another person get screwed over by NYS gun laws. On a positive note however, the NYS unofficial results tally has Astorino in the lead by a slim margin with upstate showing plenty of red on the map. Here's to hoping Cuomo gets the boot.
  11. Moestooge

    Moestooge Member

    Why move to a socialist armpit like New York in the first place?

  12. Amen to that. I lived there for the first 28 years of my life. Never been to NYC. We lived in CNY (Oneida). It IS a beautiful state but the politics just suck. (N.Y.S. = Now You're Screwed)

    I would not take ANY firearm into the state.
  13. Tchort

    Tchort Member

    Must be the thing, my first 28 also. Live in fingerlakes, never been to NYC (6 hrs away).

    Terrible thing, brother inlaw lives southwest suburbs of denver. The mountains and area there is awsome. I love visiting. Lucky i have a second brother inlaw, he better stay there.