C9 jamming (despite everything I've tried)

Discussion in 'Hi-Point Pistols' started by LuDog, Mar 12, 2014.

  1. LuDog

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    Hello everyone, I'm new to this forum. I've been searching threads and have tried many methods to fix my problem. The first 2 rounds of any magazine, I have 3 ten round mags and 1-8 round, always fail to feed properly and jam in the gun at a downward angle. The rounds seem to be catching on the lower front edge of the magazine when i push them out with my thumb against the rim with the magazine removed from the pistol. I have tried repeatedly to adjust the feed lips out at the range with some needle nose pliers and then shooting a round and they jammed every time. I eventually ended up with a bent firing pin and had to get a replacement firing pin assembly from the manufacturer. I thought this might have been the problem but now that I have the new assembly installed and I took it to the range the other day, I am still having the same problem. I haven't been able to shoot the gun for a couple of weeks now. I also polished up the feed ramp and the doll head and chamber it slides in, but none of these mods have helped the problem. I have seen a thread that mentions disassembling the magazine to alter the follower angle but I'm not sure exactly how to do that. Can anyone please offer some suggestions? I would like to be able to rely on this gun as it is now I can't. Thanks in advance.
     
  2. cicpup

    cicpup Resident PITA Supporting Member

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    Really all I need. Mags aren't broken in yet. Are you keeping them fully loaded when not in use and unloading and reloading them from time to time? It can take awhile to break them in so be patient.
     

  3. Nu-Point

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    *Jumps in before anybody else does*

    LIMP WRISTING!
     
  4. dirtroadrider

    dirtroadrider War Eagle Member

    I'm sorry to ask this but have you adjusted the lips "in" make them closer together, I may have misread your post saying you adjusted lips out? I'm not a Hi Point specialist but the few mags I adjusted to keep the round from nose diving was to narrow the lip gap. There are many others on this forum with more experience and will be able to help you with this issue.
     
  5. SWAGA

    SWAGA No longer broke... Lifetime Supporter

    There is a stickies thread that deals with the magazine issue.
    Possibly your last round hold open latch is somehow interfering with the feeding also.
    But try the mags first.
    There is also a YouTube video on the subject.
     
  6. ajole

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    Nose down is usually a problem based on a spring needing to be flipped around, or the fact that you didn't smack the back of the loaded mag against your hand or helmet to settle them in properly.

    Adjusting the front lips IN can make the nose down even worse. But the lips have NOTHING to do with how they ride in the mag. So, fix that first, then adjust the lips to fix any feeding issues you have AFTER the bullets start riding up tight against the lips consistently.

    Seriously. Pop the base off, and check your spring, tallest part should be forward, according to the guys around here. Then put the thing back together and using a pencil, start working the follower up and down a LOT, to break it in. To me, THIS is the important part.

    After it feels smooth, load it up and see how things look. Smack it against your hand to settle the bullets. Then load it into the gun and see if it will feed right. Don't bother hand cycling, take it out and shoot it.

    Let us know how it goes.
     
  7. Take advantage of the #1 best warranty in the firearms business, or like cicpup said, keep the mags loaded and give it some break-in time. Also keep it clean and well lubed..
     
  8. bluebone

    bluebone Duke of Sarcasm Member

    You may also try polishing the front tab on the mag follower. It sounds like it's sticking while the rear of the follower rises up.
     
  9. LuDog

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    I've kept them loaded for around 2 - 3 weeks now. I unloaded them a few days ago when I installed the new dieing pin assembly and tested it. I keep them loaded laced at all times in between range tests.
     
  10. cicpup

    cicpup Resident PITA Supporting Member

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    I've had some that took months to finally break in.
     
  11. LuDog

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    Iv'e tried smacking the mags every-time and no good. But I will definitely take a look at the magazine spring. Thanks for the help, I'll reply after I've tested again.
     
  12. LuDog

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    Break-in period

    OK. Thanks, I didn't think it would take that long.
     
  13. Hermitt

    Hermitt Hey! Get Off My Lawn! Member

    I spray (and wipe out) the inside of my mags with silicone spray. It's dry so it doesn't collect dirt and nice and slippery.
     
  14. LuDog

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    returned mags to HiPoint

    I took the magazines apart and polished up the front tab of the follower while I had them open. I reversed the spring before reassembling. The magazines did feel alot better and I had hi hopes but after putting them back together the first round jammed against the feeder ramp on the first round again like always. I think that due to all the jamming there is a groove worn into the feed ramp now. I already polished the feed ramp the last time I cleaned the gun. I'm pretty frustrated with this gun now. I returned the magazines to hipoint and I'll see how the new ones work out but I really do not think that the magazines are the issue. It fired fine for me for the first 600 or so rounds.
     
  15. ajole

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    Did you try spreading the front mag lips any? I think that may have been all you needed to do.

    What ammo are you using? Did you try any other brand?

    Sometimes it can be as simple as that.

    This time..take some pictures and we can try to help you out better
     
  16. ChildeRoland

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    I've got 250 rounds through my c9 and I've learned that mine dislikes whitebox. I put 100 rounds of wb through it and had minor issues. Mostly partial feeds where I had to gently tap the back of the slide.

    HOWEVER, as many have suggested, UMC feeds like butter. I also put 100 rounds of Pierce through it and it ate that we'll also.

    But UMC at $15 or $16 per box (in NY) works great and is decent in price.

    I actually had issues badly with both Pierce and WB when filling both mags full (both 8 and 10) with racking the first round. It would lock the slide back with the round nosed down into the feed ramp. I just tapped up on the mag and tried again and that mostly worked.

    With UMC I didn't experience that issue. I'll just down load a round in each mag when ammo acts funny until it hopefully eats anything without issue.

    All I've done is pulled the lips apart on the mag a bit so far.
     
  17. LuDog

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    spreading lips

    I did try spreading the front mag lips many times at the range. I brought some needle nose pliers and kept test firing and adjusting. That did not seem to affect it at all.

    I've been using Samson (IMI) and Federal ammunition.

    I've attached pictures of the round jammed against the feed ramp and of the magazine after I've adjusted the front mag lips.
     

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  18. panoz77

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    Whatever adjustment you are doing, the nose of the round has to seat up. Yours look like they are nosediving. Just send the mags back and ask for replacements, it will only cost a few bucks to mail them in. Why suffer?

    By the way, your feedramp looks like you "polished" it with 80 grit sandpaper. Mine all look like a mirror. Your problem might be the "polishing" you did.
     
  19. SWAGA

    SWAGA No longer broke... Lifetime Supporter

    If it's not the mag lips it may be the mag spring which is reversed.
    If it's not the mag spring it may be the last round hold open tab which is contacting the rounds and causing them to nosedive.
     
  20. delsol

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    My C-9 worked perfect when I first bought it but after a while it started jamming, try everything but nothing worked. Call MOM and talk to one of there tec and he told me to send it back to him. I sent it to him and he had it back to me with in 2 weeks and the gun has worked flawlessly. I have join a long list of people who can't say enough good thing about MOM.