CA must go

Discussion in 'Vintage Topic Archive (Sept - 2009)' started by Newskate9, Jan 13, 2008.

  1. Found this on another board.... Written in 2001. LMAO!

    Why California Must Secede at Once

    by William L. Anderson

    My patience has run out. Although I have a living relative in California, it does not matter. All I want is for California to leave this union of states and go its separate way. In fact, the former Republic of California can also take Washington State and Oregon with it and start a new country on this continent’s West Coast. Maybe they can call this new nation Bolshavia.

    The latest power crisis in which Californians are demanding that electricity producers outside the state work for free (a nice term for this is forced labor) to provide them with low-priced electrical power has put me over the edge. Until now, I could tolerate California, since it generally sends Washington, DC, more taxes than it receives in benefits (California: The State for Suckers!) and produced John Wooden’s great UCLA basketball teams.

    However, now that California is showing its true colors, I admit that my eyes are opened at last. Whatever gains I might have from California’s excess of tax revenues has been swallowed up in the Free Lunch Philosophy that has emanated from that state for many years. California has been Ground Zero for many of the diseases that have plagued our body politic, and it is time that Californians and their "Left Coast" fellows bear the full cost of their Jane Fonda Socialism.

    One may be surprised that I demand that another state secede from the United States. After all, I reside in South Carolina, which seceded in 1860 only to have Abraham Lincoln and his federal troops bring the folks here back into the union. This was not a peaceful reunion, as the federals burned down about half the towns in the state before the war ended. As much as other Americans may have hated South Carolinians, they did not insist that this place actually become a new country. (In fact, the saying in this state at the time was that "South Carolina is too small to be a country and too large to be an insane asylum.")

    California, on the other hand, is an insane asylum and the rest of us are insane if we continue to allow that state to impose its evil will upon us. Believe it or not, the rest of us will be better off if the "Left Coast" forms its Bolshavia immediately. Let me explain by answering objections to the Golden State’s departure.

    "If California leaves the union, then it takes all of its high technology firms with it." This objection is based upon the assumption that there are no gains from trade. Just because I want California out of our political union does not mean I want to boycott products from that state. Furthermore, I would want no trade barriers to block imports from or exports to California. Granted, Californians are stupid enough to set up trade barriers on their own, but the barriers would harm California more than this country. After all, even though Guatemala is a banana republic does not mean we don’t buy its bananas.

    "We will lose all that federal tax revenue from Californians." Good, I say. The less money in the coffers of our central government will always be a victory for freedom and goodness. Fewer tax dollars means fewer bombs dropped on Iraq and less regulation.

    "We will lose the use of port facilities on the West Coast." First, the US East Coast has more and better ports than the Left Coast. Second, even Californians and their Northwest brethren might even find that free trade works. Motivated people can find optimum trade relations if they wish, so the loss of port facilities does not have to matter a whit.

    "We will lose the benefits of the excellent universities and schools in those states." Nonsense, I say. The University of California at Berkeley (or "Berserkely," as some locals lovingly call it) has always been at the forefront of trashing all things good and decent, while Stanford University hates Western civilization. Anyway, if smart, useful people who have attended California’s universities can find a way to work in the United States, then there will be gains from trade and the problem will be solved.

    "We will lose some of our greatest political leadership." Oh, please! Barbara Boxer, Maxine Waters, Diane Feinstein, and Willie Brown are not political leaders. They are thieves, crooks, and charlatans. Any state that elects those folks to office deserves whatever punishment it receives.

    "There could be a refugee problem, as productive, decent, and thinking people are forced out of the Marxist California state." This is a problem? Please remember that Fidel Castro ran out the cream of the crop in Cuba in 1960, thus sending us entrepreneurs and others who were productive. It was only later that Castro was left only with criminals who also found they could have better pickings in the USA. Certainly the mass exodus of productive Californians would be a boon to this country. Not only that, but those who would choose to leave the Socialist Golden State Republic would also be those who most despise the interventionist state.

    Whatever the problems caused by the departure of the Left Coast may be, they are hardly insurmountable. That is because motivated people can engage in trade. On the other hand, should the Left Coast form its own Bolshavia, we can then see another socialist laboratory in action – and we don’t have to directly bear the consequences of socialist stupidity. We can simply sit on the sidelines and watch Californians implement socialism – and the rest of us won’t have to pay them a dime.

    January 27, 2001

    William L. Anderson, Ph.D., is assistant professor of economics at North Greenville College in Tigerville, South Carolina. He is an adjunct scholar of the Ludwig von Mises Institute.
  2. Always funny and worth the read to refresh the knowledge of the differences that exists between the different states.

    Just please don't devolve into California bashing and hate; there are honest millions living as 'slaves' in the CA Gulag. Many of them vote for losers in elections and write letters/make phone calls protesting stupid law. What is needed is for the mindless masses to finally become so fed up that they turn their backs on the mistakes of the past to make a better future (is the rest of the US listening??? -it's a matter of degree, not kind)

    Until yesterday, I had some real hope that SCOTUS might take a stand to remind us all that there is still a Constitution. Bush and his lawyers in the federal government have taken some of that hope away.


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    As an immigrant to the US, California scares the s**t out of me. I see all the evils of Socialist governance I thought I had left behind leaking out of that place like toxic waste out of a rusty drum.

    Truly worrying is how many states seem to think that "well, CA did it!" is a good reason to pass or initiate legislation.

    SHOOTER Z Well-Known Member

    OH YA !!! Did ya here the lastest in Cali they wanna start having transmitters hooked to everyone's thermosts so they can ride around and if your temp is too cold or too warm they can adjust it so to save power. And also now are talking of trying it out for the rest of us as well!

    Lemme see they wanna tell me how much I can eat and drink. WHAT I can eat and drink. When I can breath. When I can go to the bathroom and how much I can get rid of [mustn't overburden the sewege system must we?] :roll:
  5. Shootest 995

    Shootest 995 Guest

    Just give it back the the illegals and Laraza and MS 13, they figure it is theirs anyhow. Then when they turn it into anothe 3rd world country the tech firms and any other worthwhile industry will leave anyhow.

    When the industries leave, they will take the real jobs and leave the ladscapers with nothing to do other then steal from each other and from the start Laraza and MS 13 will have been in charge, so they will just start killing each other.

    As we are against this why!?!?
  6. The thermostat control is really something! I read about this and can't believe that this is actually being considered. Where are the people of California? STAND UP AND SAY NO! Where will the control of citizens lives stop! If this happens there will be no stopping the Calif. government from doing anything they see as "for your own good". GRRRRRR :twisted:
  7. Shootest 995

    Shootest 995 Guest

    I seen the htermostat thing earlier this week:

    Big Brother to control thermostats in homes?

  8. I'm not a fan of California's policies either. The government is totally out of control. I heard a fellow say on the news during the last election,
    "How California goes, so goes the nation." If that's true, then... God Help Us All.
    Let'em secede.
  9. There are some real odd balls out there that is for sure.
  10. Kelotravolski

    Kelotravolski Member

    I was born in California and getting out was the best thing that has ever happened to me.
  11. azcarbine

    azcarbine Guest

    I defected in 1995. I felt better as soon as I crossed the border into AZ.
  12. Gov't controlled thermostats?????????

    You've got to be kidding. Wait a sec...... CA..... the only joke here is San Fran isn't doing it already.

    I lived in CA 91-94. At that time Uhaul was hiring people to drive to other stats to bring trucks / trailers BACK into CA cause too many people were leaving with them. At some point the non-sense has to stop, but one wonders if we'll ever see it. I thought Arnie would be the answer - he's not turning out that way. There's enough conservative voters in CA to stop the madness if they all voted - just like the rest of the country. I guess it'll have to get pretty bad, or should I say even worse, before they stand up. God help them.
  13. None of them were born in or educated in Cali. They are all New Yorkers.
    Mr SNS
  14. California is America's testing ground for freedom reducing ideas.
  15. neothespian

    neothespian Member

    Yeah... California has a TON of bad ideas, but about the same ammount as I've seen comming out of Texas when I lived there, just aimed at different groups.

    I personally wouldn't mind seeing Texas go it's own way after living in the state for a year and experiencing the good-ole-boy method of police application, backwards laws and pro-Christian/anti-everything else politics.

    Depends on your perspective but I'd rather fight the gov't-controlled thermostats than fight the cops when my car gets rammed on a major freeway in Dallas and when the cop notices my "F' Bush" sticker on the car, simply says "Well, by that you were just asking for it. Be glad you're alive" and drives off.....with the guy's licence plate still on the ground!!!

    You shave off Cali, and I'll take Texas out of the basket.
  16. azcarbine

    azcarbine Guest

    None of them were born in or educated in Cali. They are all New Yorkers.

    Feinstein was born and raised in the VERY wealthy neighborhood of Pacific Heights in San Francisco. I'm pretty sure Willie Brown is from Berkley. This kind of stuff is VERY Bay Area.
  17. Neo - I guess maybe I see things a bit differently. As much as I despise the Clintons, Kennedy's, Pelosi's of the world, I'd never put a F'Clinton bumper sticker on my car. Three reasons - the first and most important is the shear lack of respect for the office. Second, it's not real smart, as you may have discovered. And third - nothing says more about a man than an F-You bumper sticker.

    I guess it is all perspective.....
  18. I'd have to agree with Newskate.
  19. My uncle has a "If This Van's A-Rockin' Don't Come A-Knockin'" bumper sticker. And it's very very true. :D
  20. :lol:

    That's about the only kind of bumper sticker that's safe anymore.