That's right, our booger hook. I know what proper form is for shooting, but in my case, I have found that doing the exact opposite helps me shoot my 4595 carbine more effectively. Ideally you should use the first pad of your shooting finger to press rearward on the trigger. With a clean, crisp trigger I find that using the small area between the tip and middle of the first pad on my index finger gives me the best feedback of where the trigger breaks. My 4595 does not have a clean, crisp trigger though. I have felt worse triggers, but my carbine's is heavy with a good 4mm or so of creep. When using the tip of my index finger I can't consistently gauge where the break initiates. So what I've been doing goes completely against convention, but works for me. I have gorilla hands with banana fingers. Big, fat hands. I find that by sticking my index finger through the guard until I'm straddling the trigger with the center of the second pad of my finger, I can curl the tip of my finger back towards the grip and brace it there to keep my finger from over traveling and squeezing the trigger. Using the above method I can pull through the creep without jerking the trigger, and I can compose my shot before tripping the sear. Honestly, I only use this method when I'm zeroing an optic or during a friendly competition with someone to see who shoots better. When I'm just plinking I don't use this method as it takes more composure on my part. I've managed to clean up/smooth out the surfaces in relation to the trigger components and eliminated some of the "grittiness" in the trigger, but I don't know how to shorten the overtravel. So what do you folks find works best for you to consistently get good feedback from your Hipoint trigger?