While looking for a new carry load, I came across a few really good options specifically for those of us that carry Hi-Point pistols for CCW. No carry ammo that I've found is cheap, and these are no exception, but you don't dump mag after mag of them down range anyway, so it's definitely worth the investment to have good, reliable, effective, carry ammo. First up is Federal's LE Tactical EFMJ 124gr. +P Ammo. Federal describes it as follows: "This is 9mm Federal LE Tactical Expanding Full Metal Jacket (EFMJ) 124gr. +P Ammo. Federalâ€™s exclusive EFMJ bullet design provides the most consistent expansion and reduced risk of collateral damage. This one-of-a-kind bullet design combines a scored full-metal nose over an internal rubber tip that collapses on impactâ€”not based on hydraulics. Its fully enclosed design means it never fills with barrier material and ensures controlled expansion directly upon impact. A low-flash propellant is ideal for low-light tactical applications, while EFMJâ€™s bullet profile promotes smooth feeding in automatics. Itâ€™s the perfect choice for reliable expansion and penetrationâ€”not to mention for areas that donâ€™t permit hollow point ammunition." Since it doesn't have the hollow point "scoop", it should feed as reliably as ball, and, as you can tell from the photo, it mushrooms quite nicely. Another round that fits the bill, especially for those of us that are worried about collateral damage from a CCW self-defense scenario, is the Glaser Blue Safety Slug 80gr. +P Ammo. Here is how Glaser describes its product: "This is 9mm Glaser Blue Safety Slug 80gr. +P Ammo. For over 30 years, Glaser Safety Slug has been the perfect choice for use in populated, urban areas. Glaser's composite design uses a special thin-wall jacket, and a precision compressed lead shot core with a soft polymer tip. This construction provides optimum balance between penetration and fragmentation. The round nose profile of this round guarantees Reliable feeding. Stopping power is maximized by the complete dispersal of the bullet energy into the intended target with immediate shock and trauma. This rapid fragmentation delivers the energy to a large area. Reduced recoil allows a fast recovery for follow up shots if necessary. This makes Glaser the best choice for defensive situations. Glaser Blue penetrates five to seven inches in the International Ballistic Wound Association (IWBA) protocol testing. The Glaser blue Safety Slug uses #12 shot compressed into a solid form, which produces immediate energy dispersal into the target, reducing the possibility of over penetration and creating abrupt stopping power. The numerous projectiles disperses outward generating an effective wound cavity. This load reduces the possibility of over penetration through the intended target. It provides for an added margin of safety. A missed round is much more likely to break up on an interior wall and dump its energy rather than proceeding unabated into an adjoining room and injuring an innocent bystander. The light fast bullets reduce the felt recoil and are excellent loads for the small compact carry guns and snub nose revolvers. For over 30 years the Glaser Safety Slug has been the overwhelming choice for the "house gun" stored in the nightstand." This is excellent for crowded restaurants or malls where a bullet that's too hot can end up injuring someone behind the threat that doesn't hit the floor when the shooting starts. I have boxes of both of these products on the way, and I'll let everyone know what I think once I've fired them. Of course, hopefully we'll never know how they work in real life, but I will note how they handle. My idea is to carry the Glasers in the first magazine in my gun, the Federal in the second magazine, and standard ball in my third magazine. This way I'll have progressively stouter firepower and an increasing level of response should the need arise, but less worry about those that may happen to be around if the use of force becomes necessary. I hope this helps you guys.