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I'm looking for a new 12 gage pump for the lowest possible price. Something can can shoot either deer or birds with minor changes to the chock and ammo. I will also consider a double barrel. Thanks.
 

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I was in the market for one as well and ended up getting a used Mossberg 500 for $120. If used is an option you could look into something like that. New 500's and the maverick 88 are very reasonably priced though.
 

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Well, if you're lookin for something on the site for sale, then this needs to be in the classifieds and I'll notify somebody. Used remington is the way to go. The 870 is pretty cheap. Also, single shot shotguns are VERY cheap and easy to come across.
 

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I was in the market for one as well and ended up getting a used Mossberg 500 for $120. If used is an option you could look into something like that. New 500's and the maverick 88 are very reasonably priced though.
+1 on all of these suggestions too!
 

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I was just looking into this as well. My buddy bought a Maverick 88 at Wally World for $170 which is a fantastic deal. I shot it last Sunday and it accurate to about 30 yards or so. His gun came with a 24 inch vent ribbed barrel and I imagine you could use it for water fowl or skeet since it is pretty light. Luckily for me, he's thinking about selling it to me a little less than what he paid....SCORE! I would also look into the H&R single shot. From reviews that I've read they are cheap and last forever since there isn't much that can go wrong with a single shot. Good luck and good hunting.
 

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I envy you people and your cheap firearms!! Here you won't find ANY 12 gauge pump for under 200, new or used! The average Maverick 88 goes for $220 (and most China-Marts in the Phoenix Metro area have stopped selling firearms alltogether), and I have a hard time thinking of the 870 as "cheap", since they go for $320 to $400 even at places like Dick's Sporting goods or Big5.

The cheapest I've seen is New England Firearm's clone of an 870 (and I'm told that it takes the same aftermarket parts) for $219, and I'm seriously thinking about it. Feels far tighter than a Maverick 88 and has all the basics for a HD shotgun.
 

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For the amount of additional cost of a used pump versus a used SxS or single shot, I'd definitely go with the pump. I've had very good success with my Winchester 1300; it's easily the slickest pumping 12GA trombone I've ever played. Granted I bought it for $200 a decade ago. Probably now, not so much.

If I were looking to start over I'd start seriously searching for Remington 870 with a Mossberg 500 as plan B. Loads of aftermarket parts as you find the funding but a quality, capable firearm in plane-jane factory clothes as well. This is my current preconceived, top-of-mind preference as we say in marketing circles.

To test that notion, I conducted the following non-scientific test on gunbroker.com.

Just now I found:

Two HR/NEF used 12GA singles, one for $65 the other for $100.

We'll use that one shot for $100 dollars as our benchmark.

A couple of used SxS of the Savage 311, J.C. Higgins variety. Approx. $250.

You get a 100% increase in available firepower for 150% increase in price.

Found a used Mossberg 500 with rifled barrel for $199. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=142861010
Not the most versatile of barrel choices but you get a 500% increase in firepower over the single for double the cost. That barrel would certainly be a good choice for deer. The nice thing about the 500 is the availibility of additional barrels and the ease in installing them. Pick up a used smoothbore barrel for birds or look for a used 500 combo with two barrels and you should still be under $325 easily.

Most of the available used Remington 870s are running in the $325-365 range as a minimum.

You get a 400% increase in capacity for a 225% increase in cost. I'd say the 870 is a bit higher quality but not enough to outweigh the additional cost over the Mossberg.

My un-scientific findings:

If you just need something that goes bang for right now, a used HR/NEF 12GA is hard to beat. Picking one up at a pawn shop for less than $100 will be no great feat. It will be baseball bat reliable and maintenance is a cinch. The caveat is for sport shooting it'll be a compromise. It won't be ideal for birds and it won't be ideal for deer. But it'll be decent enough that with practice and proper ammo you should be able to take both.

The SxS is an increase in firepower but are more niche guns for wing and skeet shooting. The cheap ones are cheap, not inexpensive. There's a difference. For the cost of even a cheap SxS you can get into a used pump. They're designed for birds and with SxS barrels and the offset aiming that comes with them, it'd probably be a poor choice for deer.

Used Mossbergs and used Remington 870s are available in many configurations. Both are reliable with strong aftermarket support. The 870 will cost you a tad more for a marginal increase in quality. With either of these 12GA pumps you get a huge increase in on-board firepower. With the $100 single shot as a benchmark, the 6 shot Mossberg should cost $600 and instead costs well under half that.

To me, the Mossberg 500 wins. I would've thought that used 500s and 870s were closer in price. All things being equal I'd probably rather have an 870 but the Mossberg is the better bang for the buck, IMHO.

Anyone else want to weigh in on this?

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I was in the market for one as well and ended up getting a used Mossberg 500 for $120. If used is an option you could look into something like that. New 500's and the maverick 88 are very reasonably priced though.
New? Where? This was one of the options I was considering but wanted to see if you guys had better ideas. Any stores near Pocono's in East PA that sell it?

I have to learn where the pawn shops in my area are. I just moved here.
 

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I was in the market for one as well and ended up getting a used Mossberg 500 for $120. If used is an option you could look into something like that. New 500's and the maverick 88 are very reasonably priced though.
New? Where? This was one of the options I was considering but wanted to see if you guys had better ideas.
Walmart has them by me priced under $300 for the 500 and alot less for the 88. A pawn shop had three model 88's new with a 500 type foregrip for $150. A 500 type foregrip is needed if you want to change it out or add a rail to it as the 88s have no aftermarket grips that I know of for the 88 style grip.
 

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I bought my Maverick 88 at a pawnshop for $100 (they were asking $125).
Pawnshops are great and don't be afraid to try and talk 'em down on the price.
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DAMN YOU ALL AND YOUR CHEAP GUN AND PAWN SHOPS!!!!!!

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
 

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I envy you people and your cheap firearms!! Here you won't find ANY 12 gauge pump for under 200, new or used! The average Maverick 88 goes for $220 (and most China-Marts in the Phoenix Metro area have stopped selling firearms alltogether), and I have a hard time thinking of the 870 as "cheap", since they go for $320 to $400 even at places like Dick's Sporting goods or Big5.

The cheapest I've seen is New England Firearm's clone of an 870 (and I'm told that it takes the same aftermarket parts) for $219, and I'm seriously thinking about it. Feels far tighter than a Maverick 88 and has all the basics for a HD shotgun.
NEF/H&R pumps are great shptguns.Fair price and reliable.
 

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I bought my Maverick 88 at a pawnshop for $100 (they were asking $125).
Pawnshops are great and don't be afraid to try and talk 'em down on the price.
Again...

DAMN YOU ALL AND YOUR CHEAP GUN AND PAWN SHOPS!!!!!!

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

I feel the same. I asked my Realtor (he shoots too) if their were any pawnshops in the area that sell cheap guns and he said no.
 

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I'm lucky, all my shotguns were purchased in the late '70's, early '80's.

New Mossberg 600AT from K-Mart for $99, and a new Remington 1100 for $199.

(Sorry, guys).

The Mossberg is a beast, I've got 1000's of rounds thru it, never failed.

The 1100 is my 401k - ther'll be a little profit in it if I ever sell it :)
 
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