I'm considering a new rifle, and wanted to take a look at a Hi-Point. Partly just to see how it feels, but wanted to see what the iron sights looked like. Even with my nearsightedness (can't see well at distance), and astigmatism, I actually thought the irons are quite decent. The gun has a very solid feel, and is pretty hefty. They want $297 plus tax in Hilo. Also looked at a nice new Ruger 10/22 takedown gun in stainless (a good feature in this climate). Looked at a Henry AR7 also. I don't find the HP to be ugly, as some like to say. Just very purposefull. Oddly, this gun store doesn't want to stalk the HP handguns at all.