Choose My Secondary Home Defense Handgun

Discussion in 'General Firearms Discussion' started by Kiln, Dec 20, 2016.

  1. Hi Point JHP (9+1 .45 ACP)

    18 vote(s)
    81.8%
  2. Arminius HW357 (6 rounds .357 Magnum)

    4 vote(s)
    18.2%
  1. greg_r

    greg_r Lifetime Supporter

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    No, they are .451. Pre WWII were .454. The Bushmaster is .451. Barnes makes a 325 grain, which is about the heaviest bullet I can easily find in that caliber. The 458 SOCOM can use bullets from 300 to 600 grains.
     
  2. tallbump

    tallbump Supporting Member

    Probably mentioned in the article Kirk posted (ill have to go back and read it) but if a revolver does fail, chances are almost 100% it won't be a quick fix and the gun will be inoperable. However, if the semi auto fails, chances are very good a quick tap and rack will fix it.

    Between that and the higher capacity, I vote for the JHP
     

  3. ajole

    ajole Supporting Member

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    I keep telling people what you are saying here...but they don't seem to hear me.:eek:

    :rofl:

    But I really do agree with you. I'm just not sure my ears can handle the .357 for 3-5 shots without damage.
     
  4. Bull

    Bull Just a Man Supporting Member


    I know...... I'm actually surprised you haven't crocked some kind of medieval concoction out of rat droppings and elderberries that works...
     
  5. Rachgier

    Rachgier Administrator Staff Member

    Plenty of half to mostly deaf vets. Take it from a mostly deaf vet who's had crushed mastoid bones removed, ear drum replaced, 12 sets of tubes, and staring at a prescription for hearing aids.

    You're talking about a massive overpressure in your ears being dampened by a build up of excess fluid...which can't be compressed. It's actually going to cause more damage. And you don't notice the sound as much because of adrenaline.

    I've been seeing an otolaryngologyst since birth when I was diagnosed with a birth defect called laryngomalacia. Required surgery to correct. Passed it on to both of my boys too.

    Not a whole lot I dont know about the pathology of the ear.
     
  6. backbencher

    backbencher Supporting Member

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    Good to know. That last sentence is why I bought my brother a .458" SOCOM upper.
     
  7. greg_r

    greg_r Lifetime Supporter

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    I assure you if you touch off a round inside at night, it will be the loudest sound you have ever heard.
     
  8. backbencher

    backbencher Supporting Member

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    I thought a .22" LR revolver on the old NRA range in DC couldn't be that loud w/o ear pro. I was very wrong.
     
  9. Rachgier

    Rachgier Administrator Staff Member

    Don't lie, it will only sound like a mouse fart...
     
  10. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    SSSHHHhhh!!! That's his Secret Primer Compound! :mad:
     
  11. cicpup

    cicpup Resident PITA Supporting Member

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    Had a Bersa Thunder go off around 4:00am. Entire family slept right through it.
     
  12. Asher1

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    WHAT!?!? :confused:

    YOU SAY, YOU KEEP SMELLING FEAKLE WHAT YOUR PRAYING??? BUT THEY DON'T SEEM NEAR ME?!?!?! :p:p
     
  13. SavageGuy

    SavageGuy Supporting Member

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    What happened?
     
  14. cicpup

    cicpup Resident PITA Supporting Member

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    Gunsmithing while half asleep. Murdered a desk & double knotty pine wall and wounded a washing machine.
     
  15. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    :rolleyes:
     

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  16. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    Was that the .380?

    Really, it could happen to anyone, good lesson for all of us!
    Cic-Pup is quite the gun builder, and it was a good lesson for me...
    I was moving 2 guns today, G34 (unloaded) and an M&P9, (loaded)
    and I really made sure I did not "assume" they were unloaded,
    even though I KNEW the G34 was! :eek:
     
  17. Kiln

    Kiln Member

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    I had an ID once (idiotic discharge) but it was because I handed off a loaded gun to a moron.

    Glad nobody got hurt man, this is a reminder for us all to practice safe handling and specifically, be careful of muzzle direction.
     
  18. planosteve

    planosteve Lifetime Supporter

    I have had one also. It was my stupidity that caused it.
     
  19. shepherd321

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    I shot a couple of guns off inside. 45acp & 38 spc
     
  20. lklawson

    lklawson Staff Member

    Now I'm curious about herbal. :p

    While often less expensive, herbs aren't always so. But it's a good idea. :)

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