Couple of victories

Discussion in '2nd Amendment' started by perotter, Mar 31, 2015.

  1. Two pieces legislation have be added to the budget bill. They relate to 'Operation Choke Point' and the UN arms ban treaty. Plus Bloomberg's anti-freedom bills have been stopped for now.

    "First, thanks to Senator Mike Crapo (R-ID). Senator Crapo was able to add a committee amendment to choke the anti-gun Operation Choke Point. And the “Bloomberglers” didn't even try to take it out on the floor.

    As you remember, Operation Choke Point is being used to try to convince banks to shut off credit to gun dealers and manufacturers. But we expect the Crapo amendment will probably put one final stake in the heart of that vampire."

    "Second, thanks to Senator Jim Inhofe (R-OK). An Inhofe floor amendment to shut down the UN Arms Trade Treaty passed the Senate by a vote of 59-41. The amendment is so far-reaching that it has been accused, probably correctly, of potentially shutting down parts of the United Nations if that organization continues to push the ATT. "

    http://gunowners.org/alert03302015.htm
     
  2. FlashBang

    FlashBang I Stand With Talon Lifetime Supporter

    It's not a victory until it is enacted.... but you know it will be vetoed by "Da One".
     

  3. ArmyScout

    ArmyScout Supporting Member

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    Yeah right, like Banks are going to turn down big time gun dealers and mfrs money. Ding dong!
     
  4. lklawson

    lklawson Staff Member

    They don't need the banks to turn down the big time ones, just a small time dealers the local mom and pops are who this is hitting.

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  5. To do that he'd have to veto the entire budget.
     
  6. Have you happened to miss that last couple years of news? Or are you just stuck in the 1950's news media?
     
  7. sdbrit68

    sdbrit68 Supporting Member

    Actually, it effects more than that.........I know of some people who are in the more adult industry, their accounts were closed. I also know of check cashers and payday loan companies who were told we wont do business with you.

    No matter your feelings on this type of business, its still a free country, somewhat
     
  8. lklawson

    lklawson Staff Member

    Yes, you're right. It affects many other "industries."

    I have a very serious issue with this policy of strangling out otherwise legal industry that "we don't like." I hate PayDay loan shops. I think they're despicable. But they're legal (and already regulated). I oppose this for the same reason that I categorically refused to sign the petitions in Ohio to ban public smoking. My Father-in-Law died of esophageal cancer. I was there in the house when he passed away over-night. I still told the petition gatherer "no" (and in my mind was saying, "bend over and stuff it up your butt you anti-freedom authoritarian").

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    Kirk
     
  9. lklawson

    lklawson Staff Member

    Budget? I've heard tell that, you know, "in the old days," Congress actually passed Budgets and sent them to POTUS. I think I read somewhere that Congress now just passes "continuing resolutions" which basically say, "we're, ummm... gonna spend sum moar money now, m'kay?" ;)

    Oh, and all available evidence seems to indicate that "defunding" something that "O" really wants is a nearly worthless "statement" anyway because "O" just diverts funds from a "slush fund" elsewhere. I won't go past that in this thread/forum because it's moves it away from 2A and into Politics.

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    Kirk
     
  10. Think1st

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    I actually wrote to my senator and representative about Operation Choakpoint early last year. The idea that any legal industry can be capriciously subjected to regulations that threaten it's existence is unconstitutional. Laws and regulations must apply equally to all, and when when they don't, then the rule of law has become rule of *insert political personality's name*. That is what makes societies break down. When The People stop believing that the legal system protects them to the same level that it does others, they will eventually feel forced to act outside of it or seek other means of justice.

    I have the results of lawlessness play out in too many places around the world to want to see the results come home. In fact, I have a suspicion that what happened in Nevada, last year was a manifestation of it. The idea that so many people would come out of the woodwork to participate in an armed standoff with federal agents would have been unthinkable in our recent history. What took place was much different from a standoff between a designated fringe group on its compound and the police. It was a bunch of individuals from outside the area who showed up for it.

    The rule of law should be so absolute that no one should ever feel that they have to take it into their own hands. I don't like it when the sentiment changes so much that so many would take part in what happened.