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I didn't know if you guys have read this yet or how important it is being im still learning but thought you should get a bit so you can find it on news yourself.


WASHINGTON – The U.S. Supreme Court raised the stakes for its new term and for gun owners nationwide by agreeing Wednesday to hear an appeal from firearms owners in Chicago. The question in the case goes to the heart of the Second Amendment and could become a major test of the court led by Chief Justice John Roberts.


The gun owners are challenging an appeals court ruling that the Second Amendment's guarantee of an individual right to guns applies only to federal law, not to state and local regulations.
 

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I am all for gun rights, but I am also for states rights... The Constitution is to protect the Federal level.. so the 2A is for the federal government. Saying the Fed can't take or ban guns.. where as the states is a whole nother level.. if there isn't anything like the 2A in Illinois' state constitution than its probably not gonna fly very well.. That being said, I am not a lawyer, I hope that Chitown will lift their gun ban.. But I am all for the Fed butting out of the states business... So I am caught in the middle.. I want guns to be allowed EVERYWHERE!!! but I also want the fed to stay out of the states!!
 

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Constitutional Rights should apply to every goverment entity, everywhere. Period. There are not a lot of rights specifically spelled out in the Constitution and NO local entity should be allow to infringe on those that are. Local governments should be able to make you more free, not less free. Other federal laws are another matter.
 

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Constitutional Rights should apply to every goverment entity, everywhere. Period. There are not a lot of rights specifically spelled out in the Constitution and NO local entity should be allow to infringe on those that are. Local governments should be able to make you more free, not less free. Other federal laws are another matter.
AMEN!!
 

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i agree states should not be able to restrict further then the federal laws . same as open carry. states cannot make a ban on carrying that is more restrictive then wat the fedral states.
 

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If the supreme court rules that chicago has the right to ban guns it might also open up the states right to tell the fed to pound sand on other things too. Which could be a good thing, like federal income taxes and even the right to control guns made in there own state to be exempt from federal regulations, much to the displeasure of BATF. I also think that if chicago gets to keep the gun ban that there should be a total ban including police and public officials and private security. See how long chicage likes being held prisoner by the criminals who will still have guns! If the people can't have personal protection then the government shouldn't either. Let the gun ban keep them safe!
 

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The constitutions says this in the 14th amendment;

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Thus the bill of rights applies to all states including the 2cd as well as the first, fourth, etc. It greatly weakened the the tenth but its a fact of life and isnt going anywhere so may as well use it to our advantage. Of course due process is involved but it can be not excuse for denial of the right no more than a law could be passed making free speech illegal.
 

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The constitutions says this in the 14th amendment;

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Thus the bill of rights applies to all states including the 2cd as well as the first, fourth, etc. It greatly weakened the the tenth but its a fact of life and isnt going anywhere so may as well use it to our advantage. Of course due process is involved but it can be not excuse for denial of the right no more than a law could be passed making free speech illegal.
Have you asked nancy polesi about free speech and right wing conservative free speech. Bet she would argue that only liberals have free speech! The right needs to die quickly not speak!
 

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Article 1, Section 22, Bill of rights, Constitution of the state of Illinois, states the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

http://www.ilga.gov/commission/lrb/con1.htm
Then the supreme court needs to nail Chicago's metaphorical balls to the wall.. If its in the states constitution then it should be upheald.. now I agree with the Fed interfering
 

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Upon inception into the union, the government of each state was required to take an oath that stated, among other things, that they will honor and uphold the US constitution. All of it. The individual states, by all means, have the right to be more LENIENT, but never more RESTRICTIVE than the Constitution or its' attached bill of rights. Just as the Fed has gone to far overstepping its' bounds, so have MANY states. When the Feds do it, it is the job of the states to step in. When the states do it, the responsibility falls to the people.
 

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Article 1, Section 22, Bill of rights, Constitution of the state of Illinois, states the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

http://www.ilga.gov/commission/lrb/con1.htm
If the plain language of the IL State Constitution says citizens have that right, have the defendants plead their case to the State Supreme Court first, rather than wrangle through the Federal Circuit?

(P.S. Happy Veterans Day - Thank you for serving.)
 

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Constitutional Rights should apply to every goverment entity, everywhere. Period. There are not a lot of rights specifically spelled out in the Constitution and NO local entity should be allow to infringe on those that are. Local governments should be able to make you more free, not less free. Other federal laws are another matter.
Perfectly stated.
 

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You can't have United States if the states are not bound to guarantee and protect the basic freedoms contained in the Bill of Rights. Therefore, it is proper for the supreme court to force a state to incorporate the 2nd amendment. The alternative would be for Illinois to withdraw from the union, or better yet, Chicago can leave both the state and the union and we'll all be very happy to be rid of them.

I say that as somebody who lived there for most of my life.
 

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Well my cop brother says alot of cops here in Macon is calling Macon, harlem now.
with all the killing and robbery everyday.if they took my gun/guns away and for
some reason i didn't use force to protect my right and myself id really be in deep
manure.
 
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