Criminals just don't learn

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by lklawson, Sep 15, 2015.

  1. lklawson

    lklawson Staff Member

    from: http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/ne...-plagued-property-owner-kills-intruder/nnbpk/

    Crime-plagued property owner kills intruder
    Officers say case appears to be self defense.
    Posted: 6:22 p.m. Wednesday, Sept. 9, 2015

    A Dayton woman targeted by criminals at least five times in 11 years fatally shot a man she said broke into her home Wednesday morning, the second intruder she has hit with gunfire in about two years.

    Peace favor your sword,
    Kirk
     
  2. monsterdawg

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    Yes they do. They learn that there are normally no consequences for their crimes. This, and the first kid shot in the arm are the exception.
     

  3. SWAGA

    SWAGA No longer broke... Lifetime Supporter

    What bothers me about that story is that he managed to jump down and run down the street before expiring.
    People still have a lot of flight and fight in them even after getting a fatal gunshot wound.
     
  4. monsterdawg

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    Don't most gunshot victims bleed to death? How far can a deer run before expiring with a fatal gunshot wound?
     
  5. SWAGA

    SWAGA No longer broke... Lifetime Supporter

    It wasn't a question, more of an observation how the one-shot-stop immediate incapacitation expectation still lingers.
     
  6. Bull

    Bull Just a Man Supporting Member


    I've had deer run over a hundred yards with the whole lower half of its heart destroyed...
     
  7. Rerun

    Rerun Supporting Member

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    You are JUST NOW figuring that out...?

    smh

    eldar
     
  8. monsterdawg

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    Watching TV and movies, it is easy to get the idea that people get shot and fall over dead almost immediately, with very little blood. I would guess that in real life, the fight or flight response would kick in and there would be considerable activity before expiration.
     
  9. FlashBang

    FlashBang I Stand With Talon Lifetime Supporter

    The article doesn't say where the shot was placed. :)
    The two critical factors are the round used and shot placement. I've seen people shot numerous times that didn't bleed out, and I've seen people shot with a single round that were DRT. ;)

    But I agree that most people don't understand that even someone who has been shot can still be a lethal threat to you.

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  10. SWAGA

    SWAGA No longer broke... Lifetime Supporter

    No, but it's frightening to consider how much fight he could have put up had he decides not to flee.
    Keep shooting till the threat is no longer a threat comes to mind.
    But the media will go 'overkill' if you empty a mag.
     
  11. monsterdawg

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    That's where fight or flight comes in. If you have someone already jacked up on adrenaline and shoot them and the f or f kicks in and they decide to fight, you better keep shooting!
     
  12. Think1st

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    Lesson learned: .45ACP is king.

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  13. lklawson

    lklawson Staff Member

    I always tell my WMA students that "Dying ain't dead."

    Peace favor your sword,
    Kirk
     
  14. Rerun

    Rerun Supporting Member

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    My instructor taught me to keep shooting until my target stayed down.

    And, never 'shoot to wound'.

    Wound a person and he/she may draw a weapon and kill YOU.

    eldar
     
  15. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

    Thats what you tell them as you kick their ass. :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  16. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

    plus 1:stir::stir::stir:
     
  17. SWAGA

    SWAGA No longer broke... Lifetime Supporter

    Well shoot till the threat stop being a threat.
    So if he turns and runs after being shot just once that's stopping the threat.
    Shooting when the bad guy is already fleeing is a no-go.
     
  18. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

    ^ unless its a 9mm from a 22 revolver with a NY trigger installed :rolleyes:
     
  19. Rerun

    Rerun Supporting Member

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    Or, they are yelling that they are coming back to kill you, your whole family and the neighbors.

    I take those threats seriously.

    eldar
     
  20. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

    Its how you explained it that matters say he was trying to cartwheels that's why he had 11 in the back, side, legs, ass, foot ;-)