It would be nice if Cobra and Jimenez could get it together. Cobra actually has potential in the patriot series if they would get serious about fitting. The freedom series actually cured a lot of the problems with the old Lorcins. The Davis 380 was always a piece of junk. The Denali fixed most of the issues but the CA380 should have been tossed. The CA32 and Davis P32 were always fine outside the barrels not stabilizing rounds due to lack of rifleing. As for Jimenez... they just made everything worse for the most part. The actually figured out ways to cheapen Jennings and Brycos. Half of their line should have been tossed... The JA380, T380, JA9, and LC380 all have major issues. The LC380 could have been saved with a decent magazine meant for 380acp best the rest all suffer from major component failures. The SNS fans spent some effort trying to work with both but it went ignored for the most part. I was in contact with Cobra for a while with a few of their "techs" where I had worked out most of the issues with the Patriot series after they provided me with parts for some of the basketcase guns I bought. Not bad people just incompetent and S-L-O-W. They also had major problems with subcontracted parts munufacturers back then. In the end it is what it is. Profit over everything else with a focus on sales and marketing instead of putting out a quality product and building a customer base. Put out enough Junk trying to make fast money and you lose any notion of consumer base which then kills sales. Lots of big manufacturers are going this same route even now. The actual design of the guns are excellent. The Patriot series is Kelgren and Sirkis designed. The freedom, CA, and denali are all basically the Raven design (as is the high point BTW). So the simplistic design, materials used etc offer a lot in terms of profit margin. However.... you absolutely must put the guns together correctly so they are somewhat reliable. Its either that or just sell raw kit guns for hobbyists. Cobra just half assed it on the back end. On the front end they did great. Then they started smoking crack and decided to make signature guns after watching too many James Bond movies. Similar to someone like Harbor frieght deciding to make precision surgical instruments for the medical field. Jimenez is just a joke. The mentality of making pistols that implode when useing standard presure ammo. The "get it out the door because nobody is going to shoot them anyways" mentality and "if it looks like a gun its good enough" just does not work. We are in a day and age where people like to shoot a lot and guns WILL be fired and tested. This was not always the case. Not saying they cannot turn things around but they would be better off just making 22,25, and 32 Jimenez pistols until the design changes can be made to beef up the offerings to the point where things are not cracking and fracturing within low round counts. Honestly I hope both these companies can turn it around. I am hard on them (as consumers should be) but it will be kind of sad if all of the SNS makers go down and all thats left is Hi-Point. Its become apparent throug the years that SNS manufacturers are not that bright. Evidence of that became clear when folks like Pheonix discontinued the Raven which was one of the most ignorant moves I had ever seen. Put the Raven in a polymer or aluminum frame, keep the price low, and it would sell like hotcakes. Instead pheonix pursues some sort of overcomplicated monstrosity zamak pistol with 78 safeties and cracking frames and slides....yeah OK. More crack smoking I guess.