Do I need another 3 0 hate

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by shepherd321, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. shepherd321

    shepherd321 Supporting Member

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    Come on guys talk me out of it. A kimber m84.
     
  2. As far as I'm concerned, you're good to go.
    The only gun I'd try to talk you out of buyin' is a Lorcin. :rofl:
     

  3. shepherd321

    shepherd321 Supporting Member

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    But the wood is too nice to even hunt with.
     
  4. shepherd321

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    Whats the value used w/o a mark on it. Includes with bases and rings.
     
  5. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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  6. Visper

    Visper AK = Automatic Killer!?! Supporting Member

    Well 84M Series, base model:

    NIB: $1100 Exec: $895 V.G.: $700

    Add base and rings to that!
     
  7. shepherd321

    shepherd321 Supporting Member

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    went for 806.00 plus tax
     
  8. shepherd321

    shepherd321 Supporting Member

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    I'm going to hold out for my grail gun a cooper 54 synthetic. But 308 or 30/06 I don't know.
     
  9. ajole

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    30-06 has more versatility, you can load heavier projectiles easier. Which is the same argument the .300 Mag or .338 guys use against the 30-06.;)

    About the only thing the .308 is "better" for is machine guns, or making a lighter gun, due to the shorter action required. And of course, ammo is slightly lighter in bulk. Some feel the shorter throw in the bolt guns makes them better or possibly more rigid as well.

    Nothing wrong with the .308...it's just got less possibilities at the heavy end of things. If that's not where you see yourself, the .308 is probably right for you, and regardless, it most likely will be perfectly adequate in 99% of the situations one might find themselves in.
     
  10. Outlaw

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    ajole is right about the .308 and .06. I have both. If I were out hunting deer or anything less, I would use the .308. If hunting for Elk or Tyrannosaurus I would go for the .06. They are both popular, very capable rnds, but like the man said, you can put one hefty load in a 30.06. Nothing on the North American continent would stand up to it. Besides, your shoulder would let you know quickly which one you could shoot more often. I can shoot the .308 all day, but the .06, not so much. ;)
     
  11. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    So YOU killed them all :wah:
    I wanted to bag one... ;)
     
  12. ajole

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    A point about the Kimber specifically...they are LIGHT guns, some under 6 lbs, and while that can good for carrying in the mountains, it isn't good for use at the range, and if you aren't VERY steady, or using sticks or some other support, it can make shooting accurately difficult while hunting.

    Not that the gun isn't accurate, as they are supposed to be very accurate...just that it's hard to hold a light gun still, they seem to magnify ANY movement in your body.
     
  13. shepherd321

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    I'm thinking 308. Anyone offhand know the differences between the nosler and the cooper?
     
  14. ajole

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    Both are too freaking expensive?:D
    But hey...once in a while you gotta go big.;)

    The Nosler is "newish", Cooper has been doing it for a while.

    Cooper bolt is a 3 lug, 60 degree throw Sako type extractor, Nosler is 2 lugs, 90 degree throw, Sako extractor.

    Both are accurate, good/great triggers. Cooper uses proprietary ring bases, Nosler uses the same as a Remington 700 would use.

    Cooper uses a flush box mag, Nosler uses a blind mag.

    I'm sure there are variations and models that are different from what I've seen, but those are what I know.
     
  15. ajole

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    How about a Montana Rifle?

    Or a CZ 550?
     
  16. shepherd321

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    The shop close to me stocks Coopers so I've eyed them for a while. The Montana Rifle and CZ 550 seem to be more in my price range but I have alot of cheaper rifles.
     
  17. ajole

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    I get it...you can spend a little more and get a little better...or you can spend more and get a LOT more, especially in the details.

    Once you have the basics covered, you gotta go with the things that make you happy.;)

    Me...I want a Blaser. Or a new car, same cash either way.:p
     
  18. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    Go all out, if you think it will pay off in
    1. Greater Long Range Accuracy
    2. Better Retained Value ;)