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fox news is reporting that a plan is circulating in congress that would fine anyone who didnt have health insurance.

wow that makes alot of sense.

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Welcome to the socialist utopia.
 

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it is the same concept as the ez-pass system in NJ. They did not have the money to install it, so they borrowed it. The loan was granted because they projected 5 million in fine revenue alone over 2 years which over a 5 year period would easily allow them to pay for the ez-pass system. Low and behold people actually obeyed the law and only 110k in fines were handed out the first year, the second year 75k lol..so they had to find a way to pay for it..so they flat taxed milk $1 dollar a gallon.

They do not have the money to pay for this socialist health care but will project through fines to the people who can't afford it or do not want it they it is paid for...so rather then just come out and say the poor are going to pay for it like usual they elude to it with "fines" for not having it. Because the poor people think they will get this for free lol. "well who would not have this free insurance? That is just appalling" lol Most of the poor do not realize that in some form or another this is going to cost them dearly.
 

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That makes no sense whatsoever, just plain stupid.
Actually in the wonderful world of ObamaLand, (please keep you hands inside the ride until it comes to a complete stop), it makes perfect sense. See, the fine, as I understand it ,is $3800, thats oddly enough right around what a years worth of family insurance premiums runs me. As there is no way to pay for this they need every penny so what better way than to levy a fine that covers one premium without providing any benefit. Hey remember when Big O said if you like what you got you can keep it? I guess that didn't include the option of liking to not have any insurance. I think he might as well go ahead and grow the Hitler 'stache he's trying to start the Obama youth as we speak and now I just picture him pounding his fist on a lectern and screaming "You vill buy health insurance and you vill like it!!"
 

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That makes no sense whatsoever, just plain stupid.
It makes perfect sense, the poor bought into nobama's lies and now there going to get what they voted for, screwed again, just like the rest of us! I'm just so happy that we took the time to tell the government we didn't want this, there really getting the message now!!!
 

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And I won't buy health insurance, and I won't pay the fine, and when they try to charge me, I'll appeal it, on the grounds that its unconstitutional, and hopefully I'll get a halfway intelligent judge(aka conservative) and he'll rule in my favor.
 

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It's the exact same thing as car insurance. You pay a fine for not having it regardless of weather or not you actually inflict any damage (real or monetary) to any person or property. I vote we go back to common law. You can't be charged with anything unless it can be proven that you actually committed a crime.
 

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Except you can avoid car insurance by not owning a car or drivers license. The only way out of this is to go TU.
 

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and car insurance is a good thing, it pays for the other person, lack of that could actually harm someone else.

By me choosing to not have health insurance, i harm only myself.
 

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Except you can avoid car insurance by not owning a car or drivers license. The only way out of this is to go TU.
Not always.

When my son turned 13 ( In PA you need to be 16 for a learners permit), my insurance company started sending letters asking why my son didn't have auto insurance. I replied that he was underage and didn't even have a permit and sent the paper back as requested.
I recieved another asking the same question but this time high lighted in bright yellow. Once again I returned the form as requested and high lighted my answer in bright yellow.
This continued untill I canged insurance companies.
 

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What's most disturbing is that this fine(sic) idea originated from a Red State Democrat, Montana's Max Baucus.

Go figure Montana. About as Red a state as you can get, yet they got two Obama Dems for their Senate reps and a Dem gov. What the h**l happened to you guys?
 

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I'm sure its been said before but lets fine the people that cant afford heath insurance in the hopes that when they recover from the fine they still cant afford it. That make lots of sense.
 

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it shouldn't be suprising. this is old news. Just like strangerous pointed out, they have done it in Mass. it is the only way to make a mandatory system work. i'm not saying whether i agree with it or not (i haven't made up my mind yet) but there is no other way to ensure that everyone is participating.

I don't like the idea of mandating insurance. But at the same time, if we allow people like ShooterZ to carry on without insurance, it ends up costing everyone more when people like that have heart attacks and can't pay their medical bills. I know, I know, its a tired argument that you all know, but still, I haven't heard anyone answer it with any intelligence.
 

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it shouldn't be suprising. this is old news. Just like strangerous pointed out, they have done it in Mass. it is the only way to make a mandatory system work. i'm not saying whether i agree with it or not (i haven't made up my mind yet) but there is no other way to ensure that everyone is participating.

I don't like the idea of mandating insurance. But at the same time, if we allow people like ShooterZ to carry on without insurance, it ends up costing everyone more when people like that have heart attacks and can't pay their medical bills. I know, I know, its a tired argument that you all know, but still, I haven't heard anyone answer it with any intelligence.
Just because you cant make you house payments does not make my interest rate go up. I do see some merit in what you are saying but why do I have to pay for his misfortune rates should be based more on the condition of my family not on the condition of everyone I work with. While I believe that everyone should have to pay for medical, what is wrong with paying after the fact by setting them up with payroll deductions tell the bill is payed. Make people more accountable for there actions with out punishing the rest of us.
 
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