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I don't have much experiencing with firearms, but a while ago I thought about getting a handgun to play around with and have in case of emergencies and maybe even concealed carry. I asked my friend what the "Hyundai" of handguns manufacturers were, and he mentioned kel-tec and the simple makarov design and some other manufacturers. then he came back a few days later and said "wait wait, a Hi-Point is definitely what you're thinking of". I looked it up and was astonished by the price and warranty and did some poking around and read half of the reviews by the people who owned them saying they're great, and then the other half of comments by people who couldn't even be bothered with handling one. I recently stumbled across one in a private sale, just to my luck, and purchased it.

I'd been shooting my friends' glocks at the range recently, but I have had very little firearms experience.

it's a c9 which looks to be in great condition. I'm guessing it's one of the newer models, as it has the Lock Open on Last Round (and it works) and the chamber viewing port. The magazine loading is a little... loose compared to the glocks. you really have to give it some force for it to lock in. the slide release is fine though, the mag falls right out. the bottom of the mag doesn't look like it belongs to the gun. it doesn't "complete" the hand grip like the glock mags do. it definitely looks cheap from the bottom. there is some rattling in the gun, especially with the mag out, like i've seen addressed in a video review, but I'm not worried about it. the plastic removable grips also look cheap.

I finally got it to the range the other day and fired it. the first time i fired it, I was scared to be behind the slide (my friend told me about some post he read where someone knew someone whose HP blew the slide off into his face when firing it, and I think it got me nervous, along with all the "you can't trust those guns!" comments), so i just held the gun out to the side a bit and let off a wild shot (don't tell the range!). and oddly enough, I didn't die, and the gun didn't blow up. So i got the courage to actually look down the sights and fire. it feels like it has a lot of recoil, and the hand grip feel a lot thinner than the glocks. when I fire it, it feels like it slips a lot more than the medium sized glocks (g17, 19). those glocks also have double stack mags, so they have to be thicker. My hands are also on the large side.

so we put up a target at 10 yards and we started firing at it. my friend with his glock shot it up no problems. I fired some rounds at it and... nothing? i didn't even hit it? my friend isn't much of a better shot than I am, in fact we're very close in accuracy. the last two rounds in my mag also failed to feed, nose up, WWB ammo. I was using the mag at full capacity (8). I immediately blamed this crappy Hi-Point. the guy who sold it to me probably abused/damaged it and then made a quick buck off me like the sucker I was. but maybe not. we brought the target in to 7 yards, which is what i'm used to shooting at, and we did some more rounds. i would aim at the bullseye and I would be hitting.... 10 inches to the bottom left? well, at least it's consistent. maybe i just need to dial in the sights. so I kept firing, and dialing in with the screwdriver. up and to the right. and no more feeding problems. the gun still felt like it was slipping/jumping out of my slightly-sweaty hands so i tried gripping it pretty tightly. my groupings got much tighter and the accuracy based on the sights was MUCH better. I wanted to do some resting shots to dial it in better but the range wasn't well equipped for it. what had started off a very disappointing gun turned out to be great.

you all have problem heard this before, but I'm satisfied with this Hi-Point! and if you don't like hyundai, don't take offense. I mean that in "it's cheap and it does what it's meant to do most of the time". I've heard "any gun at hand is better than a gun you left at home" for open and concealed carry. for me, it's "a gun that's cheap enough for me to purchase is better than an expensive gun I wouldn't purchase". if all cars cost $60k, I would still be riding a bicycle. likewise, if all guns cost $400+, I would still be unarmed. call me cheap, because I am. I buy cheap tires, cheap brakes, and I'm much more likely to die in a car accident than in a shootout.

Now I want to get some more HP models, at the very least a carbine. I'll also have to become a better marksman so as to make more expensive guns with poor marksmen look bad. I've added some bicycle innertube as a grip, and it feels much better, though I've yet to test it at the range.

One question; what's the metal piece on the bottom left of the chamber that the top round in the magazine rubs against when loading? it looks kind of like a little bent paperclip.
 

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:welcome: Sounds like you had a good time! Keep shooting and your accuracy will get better, also you'll like the grip a lot better then with the tube on it or maybe find a good hogue or butler creek to fit it. Have fun & be safe with your new hobby!
 

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WWB ammo and the chance you limp wristed it..is a good chance of any issues ya had..in my experience. Pick up some Blazer or something and hold the pistol more firmly. You'll be amazed at the ammo difference..and slip on grips..well we won't go to the "gettin a woody" place..you'll have to go there alone. 8) Congrats on the pistol and you'll end up owning more Hi-Points.
 

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Congrats on the C9 purchase. And :welcome: from Ohio.

Regarding the metal piece (lever arm) to the left of the feed ramp. That is the LRHO (Last Round Hold Open) Lever. When the magazine is empty the mag follower pushes it up locking the slide back.

Walt
 

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:welcome: For a new shooter, you seem to be pretty knowledgeable. Yeah, you'll hear all kinds of bad HP stories, mostly from people who never owned one. BTW, if you like the C9 you'll love the 995! Best of luck to you.
 

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thanks for the your insightful 1st time experience...it was very helpful to me.
 

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second range report:

I should have updated afterwards, but I shot the c9 at the range again, with the bicycle innertube grip. it feels a lot better, and the gun doesn't jump out of my sweaty palm like before. my accuracy still isn't much better, and I swear I'm more accurate with other guns.

put around 80-100 rounds through it, no jams or issues whatsoever this time. WWB.
 

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i would say start practicing your trigger discipline before messing with the sights too much, get some snap caps and practice dry firing so your not just burning up ammo. once all your shots are hitting the same spot you can start adjusting sights. a lot of highpoints don't have the smoothest trigger pull that could be why you think other guns are more accurate, the trigger pull get better as it gets more broken in, or you can speed up the process by polishing the contact points.
 

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I second the trigger pull thing - I just tried a C9 for the first time, and at first my shots were ALL over the place... I started getting better trigger discipline and I sat down to use the bench, and was impressed by the accuracy, and really started to notice just how troublesome the trigger pull was - mine had a fair bit of creep a couple of times. I might see if I can get that worked on.
 

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On my C-9 it took about 150 rounds to get the trigger to be smoother and constant all the time. In 3 months of ownership it now has around 1100 rounds through it and shoots beautifully. Of course, I clean after every outing and a little polishing here and there doesn't seem to hurt.
 
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